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Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 14:26:18 2010

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...........7D!

Yep thats right, it was on the 1:10pm 7D run. I was not able to get the number, as i was to far away, or a pic because my batteries in my junk camera died, but i'm going out in a few to see if it is on again.

the Orion VII, replaced 9650 i believe as 9650 should have done the 1:10 run.



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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by boliqua2 on Sat Nov 6 16:02:36 2010, in response to Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 14:26:18 2010.

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was it 30 footer or a 35 footer?

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 16:59:35 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by boliqua2 on Sat Nov 6 16:02:36 2010.

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It was 1031 (35ft), it did the 4:00 7D as well, i'll post the pic's later.

1066 is a 30ft i believe. 1066 is on the S59

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by B53RICH on Sat Nov 6 17:48:18 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 16:59:35 2010.

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I'm still looking for 1066. I keep seeing 9721 on the S59.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 20:10:39 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by B53RICH on Sat Nov 6 17:48:18 2010.

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1066 took over 9725 runs, from what i heard. Or at least 9725 wasn't seen on the S59 the day a friend saw it on the S59

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(PICS) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 20:30:38 2010, in response to Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 14:26:18 2010.

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http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx238/MacChief5689/Suffolk%20Transit/050.jpg

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(Here are the Pics) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 20:39:02 2010, in response to Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 14:26:18 2010.

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Here they are the pic's of 1031. Sorry about the other post, i meant to hit preview but hit post by mistake.


(1031 on the 4:00 7D)
Suffolk Transit Pictures,Suffolk Transit


(Please tell me thats not what i think it is in the drivers window!)
Suffolk Transit Pictures,Suffolk Transit

(turning to head back to Pathmark)
Suffolk Transit <BR>
Pictures,Suffolk Transit


Other pics

(9924 on the 12:45 7D, which was done by 9651 on Tuesday)
Suffolk Transit Pictures,Suffolk Transit

(9924 on the 3:25 7D)
Suffolk Transit Pictures,Suffolk Transit

(9651 on the 12:45 7D on Tuesday)
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(9651 on the 12:45 7D on Tuesday, starting to pull away)
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(9651, if you can make it out behind the tree, on the 9:15 7D on Tuesday)
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(either 9650 or 9653 on the 3:15 7D on Oct 23)
Suffolk Transit Pictures,Suffolk Transit

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by B53RICH on Tue Nov 9 17:42:39 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by B53RICH on Sat Nov 6 17:48:18 2010.

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This morning I didn't see 9721 on its usual run on the S59. Instead, 9937 was running in its place.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Nov 9 20:21:54 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by B53RICH on Tue Nov 9 17:42:39 2010.

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yeah 9721 hasn't been seen in a couple of days. neither has 9725 from what i heard. 9923 and 9938 were doing the S59 either yesterday or Saturday, i forget what day my friend told me.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Nov 9 20:51:31 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by B53RICH on Tue Nov 9 17:42:39 2010.

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Heres the roster as of today for Suffolk Transit.

Suffolk Bus Corp

1996 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9643,9645,9648-9651,9653-9654
1997 Gillig Phantom 30TB096: 9722-9723,9734
1999 Orion 05.503: 9920-9940
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5013,5015-5016*
2010 Orion 07.503 35ft: 1016,1018,1019,1020,1021-1023,1025,1028,1031
2010 Orion 07.505 30ft: 1066

* Due to 5014 not being seen since its accident earlier this year, it is assumed that it has been retired.

C.B.S. Lines, Inc

1996 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9602-9603
1997 Gillig Phantom 30TB096: 9732-9733
1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9910
2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2000, 2002-2005
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5054,5057-5059,5071-5081

Inter-County Motor Coach

1996 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9600-9601,9630-9636,9641,9644
1999 Orion 05.503: 9911-9919,9941-9942
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5021-5034
2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1001-1002
2010 Orion 07.503 35ft: 1043

EBT Inc

1996 Gillig Phantom 35TB102:9610-9611,9616,9618-9619*
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5051-5053,5055-5056,5060
2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8005
2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1003-1009
2010 Orion 07.503 35ft: 1039

* EBT's 96 Gilligs are presumed retired as they haven't been seen either at the yard or the S1 (i'm giving it another month until i move them to the official retired list since some of their have that have been transferred to Sunrise have been retired or haven't been retired yet

Sunrise Coaches Inc.

1996 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9612,9614,9647
1997 Gillig Phantom 30TB096: 9701-9702,9726
2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2001
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5091-5096
2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1010-1015

Hampton Jitney

1997 Gillig Phantom 30TB096: 9711-9714
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042

Official Retired List
1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,550-557,624,800-806
1982 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5,7-13*,6-13(118-125), 126-127*, 209*,558-562
1987 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 8701-8703,8720-8733, 711*, 740-742*, 750-759
1990 Gillig Phantom 40TB102: 9100,910-917
1990 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9101-9108, 920*,930-934,940-941
1993 Flexible Metro D 30096: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342
1996 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 9604-9605,9606,9607-9609,9615,9617,9620,9642,9646,9652,9655,9660-9661
1997 Gillig Phantom 30TB96: 9721*,9724-9725*
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5014 (Feb 2, 2010)

an * next to anything BEFORE 1993 means that the bus is retired but it is not known where the bus spent its active life.

*9721 and 9725 are thought to be retired as it wasn't on their normal S59 run.


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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Hart Bus on Tue Nov 9 21:59:08 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Tue Nov 9 20:51:31 2010.

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Add 1024 to your list. Saw it about 5:05 PM waiting on 347 in order to go north on 97.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Nov 9 22:10:30 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Hart Bus on Tue Nov 9 21:59:08 2010.

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Ok, will do

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Nov 9 22:15:52 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Tue Nov 9 20:51:31 2010.

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Need to fixed that roster on Orion VII
07.501= 40 foot
07.502= 35 foot
07.503= 32 foot

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Tue Nov 9 22:24:14 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Gold_12th on Tue Nov 9 22:15:52 2010.

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i swear, i'm just going to write the feet instead of being all technical, everyone keeps giving me different numbers. The only one that i know is right is the 40ft ones.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by boliqua2 on Wed Nov 10 04:19:17 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Tue Nov 9 20:51:31 2010.

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I saw 9725 on the 7D or 7E in Mastic/Shirley area yesterday as I was making a left on to surrey circle from William Floyd Parkway. I recognized it due to being one of the only 1997 Gilligs that have been repainted.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by boliqua2 on Wed Nov 10 04:19:23 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Tue Nov 9 20:51:31 2010.

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I saw 9725 on the 7D or 7E in Mastic/Shirley area yesterday as I was making a left on to surrey circle from William Floyd Parkway. I recognized it due to being one of the only 1997 Gilligs that have been repainted.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Nov 10 05:04:12 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by boliqua2 on Wed Nov 10 04:19:17 2010.

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Wow thats like only the second time that a 97xx has been on that route.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Nov 10 07:10:28 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by boliqua2 on Wed Nov 10 04:19:17 2010.

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Also, i heard that they had an Orion VII running on the 7D yesterday as well.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by B53RICH on Wed Nov 10 16:08:01 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by boliqua2 on Wed Nov 10 04:19:17 2010.

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Wait, I saw 9725 this morning on the S59. I finally got to see 1066 on the S59 today as well.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by boliqua2 on Wed Nov 10 16:56:02 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by B53RICH on Wed Nov 10 16:08:01 2010.

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I guess it was the other repainted one. Sorry I was driving when I saw it.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Nov 10 20:23:23 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by boliqua2 on Wed Nov 10 16:56:02 2010.

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No, you could have been right, 9725 hasn't been seen in a couple of days on the S59, and the Ronkonkoma yard has been switching buses from route to route for the last week.

9924 was seen on the 7B last Friday, then the next day (the day i saw 1033 on the 7D), it was on the 7D.

1066 wasn't seen the past couple of days on the S59 either.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by B53RICH on Wed Nov 10 21:51:21 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Wed Nov 10 20:23:23 2010.

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It probably was 9725 on one of the #7 routes. I didn’t mean to sound as if I was disputing the sighting, I was just surprised to see it again in service on the S59 after reading the latest rosters posted stating that it may have been retired. I wonder if 9721 turns up again somewhere as well.


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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Nov 10 23:00:20 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by B53RICH on Wed Nov 10 21:51:21 2010.

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I was torn between weather you were disputing the sighting or not, so i just went with what i thought was the right one. I know it was surprising to hear about 9725. I know i was surprised when i saw 9722 on the route earlier in the year, still think that bus was making me feel bad that day for not having my camera with me to capture it. It was the first time i ever recall seeing a 97xx bus on the route.

I was lead to believe that 9725 was retired because of a friend saying that he hadn't see it on the 59 since 1066 had been placed on it or the last two times he was at the mall when he saw 9923, 9938 and 9937 on the 59. Besides the suffering Suffolk Bus has seemed to be doing with some of the 99xx buses and the fact that Suffolk Bus Corp has more 35ft Orion VII then they had in 96xx buses, that needed fare boxes.

It could be, so far 9724 is officially said to be gone, by a driver that does the route that it was normally on.

I'll go out tomorrow and see what turns up. i'd be surprised if i see 1031 on the 7D again, from what i heard it was on the route yesterday.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Nov 11 22:18:24 2010, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Wed Nov 10 23:00:20 2010.

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9923 was doing 9651's runs, i'm starting to think 9651 has been retired as i haven't seen it since Election Day.

There was another 99xx that did the 4:00 run, but i was to far away to see it.



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(Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 10:10:54 2010, in response to Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 14:26:18 2010.

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1062 was spotted on the 6B yesterday, i have no idea if it was a 35ft bus, like i thought i would be or a 30ft bus.

If its a 35ft bus then i would figure it would mean that limit the companies that would get the 35ft Orion VII's as Suffolk Bus so far has 1016-1032 (a few still haven't been seen) EBT as reported here has 1039 and Inter County has 1043.

If 1062 is a 30ft bus, then that means me and my source was wrong with the numbering.

Hopefully i'll see 1062 when i go to the mall and would have a defiant answer to what bus it is.

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Hart Bus on Fri Nov 12 11:11:20 2010, in response to (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 10:10:54 2010.

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Is 6B the route that goes on Boyle Road? If so, I saw a bus on it on my way s/b to Middle Country Road. I was on there around 9:15 AM. I saw a new one but could see the number. If this is the same bus as the one I saw, it was definitely a 35 foot model.

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by exgreenbusdriver on Fri Nov 12 11:29:08 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Hart Bus on Fri Nov 12 11:11:20 2010.

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any reason why suffolk transit route have ex s1 and than they also have ex 6d for route numbers instead of just using s1 thru 99?? i hope that makes sense

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 11:47:47 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by exgreenbusdriver on Fri Nov 12 11:29:08 2010.

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I have no idea how they came up with the route numbering. I just know that ny route with a letter is a feeder route.

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 11:58:15 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Hart Bus on Fri Nov 12 11:11:20 2010.

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Yeah the 6B goes down Boyle Road. They had 1061 and a 9927 running the 6B yesterday.

if 1061 is a 35ft bus then that means that there are like five to ten 35ft buses that can be assigned else were as Suffolk Bus already has 1016-1032 and now would seem 1061-1065. EBT has 1039 (i figure they have 1033-1039, Inter County has 1043 (i figure 1040-104x) Sunrise need 4 as they have that many 96xx left and HJ need one as they only had 9620 so thats five.

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by exgreenbusdriver on Fri Nov 12 14:16:45 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 11:47:47 2010.

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and they use like 4 companies to operate it correct??

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 15:14:06 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by exgreenbusdriver on Fri Nov 12 14:16:45 2010.

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no six.

CBS Lines
Suffolk Bus Corp
EBT
Inter County Motor Coach
Hampton Jitney
Sunrise Coach

alll the companies ran transit before Suffolk Transit was created, well idk about EBT but a bus company that had their address did by a few transit buses but idk if the two companies are related.

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Revised (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 15:26:47 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 11:58:15 2010.

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The Orion VII that my friend saw on the 6B was numbered 1062, NOT 1061. Sorry for the mistake.

So far the 35ft buses go like this

Suffolk Bus Corp: 1016-1032 (all but the last two seem to be at their Bay Shore Yard)

EBT: 1039 (1033-1039-but thats just my guess)

Inter County: 1043 (My Guess, 1040-1046)

1047-1060 ?????? baring no skips thats 14 buses not assigned, assuming that my guesses are right)

Suffolk Bus Corp: 1062 (My Guess 1061-1065)

Disclaimer: Anything labeled My guess, is just that My Guess, it SHOULDN'T be taken as fact. My guess are based on what i know from being told by you guys here and by eye witnesses.

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Dr. Casca on Fri Nov 12 15:34:14 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by exgreenbusdriver on Fri Nov 12 11:29:08 2010.

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All S-routes (such as S1, S40, S92) are primary local bus routes, for the most part (I say for the most part because the S25 just serves Babylon RR and North Babylon); all number-letter routes (such as the 6D, 10C) are LIRR feeder routes, which run from certain LIRR stations to certain communities too far from any LIRR service (such as Coram or Holtsville). Others, such as the Suffolk Clipper, are express or miscellaneous routes, I guess. Not too sure about that. Can someone enlighten us here?

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 17:18:27 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Dr. Casca on Fri Nov 12 15:34:14 2010.

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There is no route numbered 6D. There is only 6A and 6B.

The 6B doesn't serve a LIRR station, and the 5A didn't until 2003. I don't think the 2A or 2B serve a LIRR station.

The Suffolk Clipper is an express route to SUNY Farmingdale.

The S35 is like the S25



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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Nov 12 17:57:41 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 17:18:27 2010.

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The Suffolk Clipper, S110.


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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 20:07:32 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by B53RICH on Fri Nov 12 17:57:41 2010.

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Same, i still have no idea why its called the Suffolk Clipper and has a route number.

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Re: Corrected (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 20:51:19 2010, in response to Revised (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 15:26:47 2010.

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My Guess for EBT's 35ft Orion VII was proven wrong today by a friend.

Suffolk Bus Corp: 1016-1034 (1034 was on the 6B today)
EBT: 1039 (My Guess: 1036-1039, to cover the 4 50xx sent to CBS)
Inter County: 1043 (My Guess: 1040-1048, replace the remaining 96xx)
Sunrise Coach: ???? (My Guess: 1049-1053, replace the remaining 96xx)
Hampton Jitney: ???? (My Guess: 1054-1055, Could take one or two, since they had one 96xx bus, but took two 50xx buses)
Suffolk Bus Corp: 1062 (My Guess 1060-1065)

Disclaimer: my guesses are only factor replacing existing 96xx buses or in EBT's case replacing the transferred 50xx buses. This ,ay not be how the order is worked, there is a 50-50 chance that this is correct

Due to the bus another friend seeing today being possible 1034 and not 1062, it calls back into question 1062. Though if my guess is right 1062 should be a 35ft Orion VII NG.

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Hart Bus on Fri Nov 12 21:42:16 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 20:07:32 2010.

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I think a route# is assigned to every route for legal purposes. Since Route 110 is the principal destination when the route was drawn, it is logical to assign the S-110 designation.

I also think that the name Suffolk Clipper is a nickname applied for advertising purposes to imply that the bus will get you to/from Route 110 in a speedy manner. Similar to the Flushing #7 train being called the "International Line" due to its ethnic diversity. For operating and signage purposes it's still the#7

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 21:48:18 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Hart Bus on Fri Nov 12 21:42:16 2010.

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I heard that before the 20xx Gilligs were brought, that Harran used coach buses on the S110, maybe thats why it was called Suffolk Clipper, and then when Suffolk brought the 20xx Gilligs for the route then numbered it 110 because it would have a destination sign where as when the coach buses there were no signs, and to show that both routes were the same thats why they use both?

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Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by Hart Bus on Sat Nov 13 20:34:22 2010, in response to Re: (Numbering) Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by Mac5689 on Fri Nov 12 21:48:18 2010.

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You are correct about Harran. They ran their OTR coaches. Don't know if it was subsidized or not. At the time, news reports claimed that the buses weren't full. If county subsidized, might be a smaller loss by using Gilligs.

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Re: Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the....

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Nov 19 16:45:25 2010, in response to Suffolk Transit Orion VII on the...., posted by mac5689 on Sat Nov 6 14:26:18 2010.

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I had seen 1047 on the S54 today along Vets Highway near MacArthur Airport.

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