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The oldest NOVABUS still running |
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Posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 16:14:57 2010 The oldest NOVABUS currently still in service today is #8752..assigned to Fresh Pond Depot. I remember when it arrived brand new. |
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Re: The oldest NOVABUS still running |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Wed Sep 1 16:29:41 2010, in response to The oldest NOVABUS still running, posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 16:14:57 2010. I rejected that crap twice already on the Q55, and will keep avoiding it till its dead. All of the random 1996 Novas being revived and sent here are an insult(except a few like 9219), there is no shortage of buses in FP nor does the Q58 Limited need more buses, the route will use the same amount it always has when the limited goes into effect.P.S., 8752 is not the oldest, Eastchester is currently using 8750. As long as it stays there, it doesn't bother me. |
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Re: The oldest NOVABUS still running |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Sep 1 16:52:41 2010, in response to The oldest NOVABUS still running, posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 16:14:57 2010. LOL, well the two subway lines that serve the heart of FP's service area (Ridgewood) is entirely NTT so that even it out in the bigger picture lol. |
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New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 18:35:56 2010, in response to Re: The oldest NOVABUS still running, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Wed Sep 1 16:29:41 2010. Supposedly, drivers from GA are protesting the move of the B43 from GA to Gleason. The move i believe would be easier on drivers(relief would be run-off instead of Manhattan Av and Nassau Av). Though GA lost a lot of work recently, with a B43 loss, here is all they would have left:B13,B24,B47,B57,B60,B62,Q59. pathetic isnt it? mind you, the same rumor has the Q54 moving from FP to GA. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Sep 1 19:30:58 2010, in response to New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 18:35:56 2010. Both swaps make sense and also keep ridership patterns in mind. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Wed Sep 1 19:31:32 2010, in response to New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 18:35:56 2010. They should SPLIT the Q-54 with FP/GA. Damn thats crazy about the B-43.<----- When would this happen? |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Wed Sep 1 19:44:07 2010, in response to New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 18:35:56 2010. Granted, JG Depot took a huge reduction because up the cuts, but GA took a hit also. FP only has 8 routes, and doesn't need a reduction, it very light loaded as it is. If anything ENY should have swaps done to it since it didn't get affected by the cuts. How about splitting the B12 with JG? |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 1 19:49:27 2010, in response to New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 18:35:56 2010. I don't see it happening; the MTA would have a hard time justifying the existence of the Grand Avenue garage. The garage only has about 150 buses.The other reason I don't see it happening: Gleason lost the B43 to Grand Avenue when it opened. If deadheads are the issue, then the MTA should build in runs that drop out at Meeker Avenue and go back to the garage from there (or require a change of buses at Meeker Avenue where the relief bus would begin its trip)...and note it in the public schedule. Of course, when the B44 SBS starts, that may change everything, and I could see the B43 leaving THEN. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by mike nash on Wed Sep 1 20:17:23 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Wed Sep 1 19:44:07 2010. i wouldn't cry for fp because they keep on gaining runs on the q58. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Sep 1 20:32:44 2010, in response to New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 18:35:56 2010. There is a very simple way to find out if this is legit: the pick is going on right now, so if somebody is friends with a FP or JG operator, simply ask him/her. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Wed Sep 1 23:45:00 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by mike nash on Wed Sep 1 20:17:23 2010. If they revise the Q38 routing by having the route pass the Ridgewood Terminal they wouldn't need so many Q58s. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Wed Sep 1 23:49:43 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Nyctransitman on Wed Sep 1 23:45:00 2010. They should also extend the 63rd Drive end of the Q38 route to Main Street, Flushing via Horace Harding Expressway and College Point Blvd. and extend the Eliot Avenue end of the Q38 route to Main Street, Flushing via 110th Street and Roosevelt Avenue. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Thu Sep 2 00:27:52 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 1 19:49:27 2010. Is the B 44 SBS really going to happen with the community board not supporting it? |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Sep 2 01:03:50 2010, in response to New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by caine515 on Wed Sep 1 18:35:56 2010. I think they need to make the Q32 back to the way that it was-as a split between MJQ and CS. With the Q32 currently being all out of CS, they make unnecessary deadheads to and from Manhattan. I don't think that's saving the MTA any money by doing that. Not only that, but the service on that line has gotten to be pretty lousy. 15-30 minute waits for a bus during the midday? That's attrocious for a busy line like that.They should make the M104 a split between MHV and MJQ. The Q58 should be a split between CS and FP. |
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Re: The oldest NOVABUS still running |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Thu Sep 2 01:12:34 2010, in response to Re: The oldest NOVABUS still running, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed Sep 1 16:52:41 2010. Funny, my area is crap when it comes to bus age, but we currently have the newest trains, the 99XX R160s sets. Isn't that odd?Though, I'd rather have slants over R160s any day. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 2 01:14:42 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Sep 2 01:03:50 2010. That's attrocious for a busy line like that.What's atrocious is how it doesn't go to Flushing. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Sep 2 01:21:48 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 2 01:14:42 2010. Why when you have the Q19 on Astoria Blvd, the Q66 on Northern Blvd, and the 7 train on Roosevelt? There's way too much traffic between 82-108 Street, Therefore, I can never see the Q32 being extended to Flushing. If anything, the Q32 can be combined into the Q33 and it could serve LGA Airport. Then, the "Q33" would be eliminated. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Sep 2 01:23:17 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Sep 2 01:21:48 2010. However, I don't see that happening anytime soon either. |
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Re: The oldest NOVABUS still running |
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Posted by R142 #6666 on Thu Sep 2 01:40:12 2010, in response to Re: The oldest NOVABUS still running, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Wed Sep 1 16:29:41 2010. 
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 2 02:33:00 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Sep 2 01:21:48 2010. I think the (7) trains ridership speaks for itself when it comes to the need for a single route along Roosevelt Avenue for its length. The Q32 would provide additional capacity to the heavily overloaded (7), and give handicap riders an alternate method to get to points along the (7).The Q33 should be extended to Woodside to give LIRR riders direct access to LaGuardia Airport. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Thu Sep 2 10:40:10 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 2 02:33:00 2010. ok so if you extend the Q 32 to Flushing, then what are you going to do about the Q 48? That is duplication of service that is not necessary along Roosevelt Av.As for combining the Q 32 and Q 33, I did mention that once but after evaluating the passenger flow, that is nightmare waiting to happen. So that is not going to happen but extending the Q 33 to Woodside makes sense. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 11:43:23 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by B49 Limited on Thu Sep 2 10:40:10 2010. What about instituting short-turns on the combined route...or ending the Q32 at 2 Avenue? (The Q101 would be extended to Penn Station to take its place.)The Q32 would run as trips between LGA and 74 Street and between LGA and 2 Avenue. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Sep 2 14:15:13 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 2 02:33:00 2010. The Q32 should be left alone. The B24 route should be discontinued and replaced by extending both the Q33 and Q104 routes as follows: The Q33 route would be extended west to Williamsburg Bridge Plaza via Roosevelt Avenue, 48th Street, BQE, Kingsland Avenue, Metropolitan Avenue, Rodney Street(E/B)/Marcy Avenue(W/B) and Broadway. The Q104 should also be extended from 48th Street/Queens Blvd. to Greenpoint Avenue/West Street via Greenpoint Avenue thus replacing the Greenpoint Avenue segment of the B24 route. This would make both the Q104 route and Q33 route more viable than the present B24 route which basically travels in circles. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 2 16:33:58 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by B49 Limited on Thu Sep 2 10:40:10 2010. ok so if you extend the Q 32 to Flushing, then what are you going to do about the Q 48? That is duplication of service that is not necessary along Roosevelt Av.Almost no trips on the Q48 are going from a point along Roosevelt Avenue to Roosevelt Avenue. Most people getting on the Q48 at Roosevelt Avenue are either going to 108th Street, 23rd Avenue or LaGuardia Airport. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Sep 3 00:05:06 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 2 11:43:23 2010. I do not see either plan happening. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Sep 3 00:06:56 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Sep 2 14:15:13 2010. Why can't all of the routes just be left alone? They are all fine as they are. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 3 19:23:50 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Sep 3 00:06:56 2010. All MTA/NYCT is doing is cutting routes.This fantasy talk of them actually improving service is pure fantasy. Let's be happy if we keep what we already have. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Sep 3 19:34:04 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 3 19:23:50 2010. I don't think that the MTA is trying to "improve" service, they might be trying to cut down on fuel costs! That may explain the changes to the QBx1 later this month! Bx23? Q50? Improvements? No way! |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Sep 4 10:38:44 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Sep 3 19:34:04 2010. Why are they even changing the QBX1 designation? |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 4 10:46:52 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Sep 4 10:38:44 2010. Because the route in Co-op City is being changed. The Q50 will not pull into Section 1, and I'm not sure if it will pull into Section 4 either. (It will terminate in Section 5, and then run via the Hutch and Co-op City Boulevard to Pelham Bay.)The Bx23 will be a circulator. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Sat Sep 4 12:19:13 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 4 10:46:52 2010. In addition the move is also in MTA mind and for customers to label the difference between the Flushing service with the Coop City only service. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 4 17:08:37 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 4 10:46:52 2010. IINM, the Q50 will still serve all sections, it just won't serve Asch Loop or Dreiser Loop directly. The MTA might as well cut it back to Bay Plaza if that's the case because not too many people are traveling from Flushing to Co-op City. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Sep 4 17:29:53 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 4 10:46:52 2010. It looks like that Eastchester might be getting the Bx23, and College Point; the Q50. The MTA is assuming that people who live in Sections 1-4 of Co-op City don't go to Flushing, so obviously there will be mass confusion for the first week after the changeover. Hard to believe a bus route that was once a Queens Surface/Queens Transit Corp. route is about to vanish into thin air on September 12th. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Wed Sep 15 22:33:12 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 3 19:23:50 2010. Bx39 (not even listed for changes) and Bx8 got service improvements recently especially on Sundays |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 15 22:38:19 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Wed Sep 15 22:33:12 2010. The Bx8 was the big winner in fall pick. |
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Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Sep 15 23:18:54 2010, in response to Re: New Rumor..B43 from GA to Gleason, posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Wed Sep 15 22:33:12 2010. I can see the Bx39 getting a hawk in the future. |
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