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Posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat Aug 28 12:17:16 2010 Enjoy Thank You Daniel Molina |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 28 14:59:54 2010, in response to PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat Aug 28 12:17:16 2010. Nice pic but I am not thrilled with those buses. A veteran mechanic (30+years seniority currently at Meadowlands) tells me that panels are glued on and since the buses have been in use the glue is drying up and unsticking so that's another thing that has to be repaired.It appears that the digital sign on this bus is b/o as well. |
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Posted by Mack C-49 on Sat Aug 28 20:05:40 2010, in response to PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat Aug 28 12:17:16 2010. Those buses are apallingly ugly. What a travesty that they replaced much more attractive Flxible Metros and RTSs! I hope the future takes a different direction in NJ before too many of these buses are purchased. Have the people who ordered these buses ever looked at them? |
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Posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 28 20:10:41 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Mack C-49 on Sat Aug 28 20:05:40 2010. Well, considering that those buses will soon make up the entire fleet of 40-ft non-MCI buses, I'd say it's too late for the future to take a different direction. |
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Posted by CapitalCruiser on Sat Aug 28 20:32:28 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Mack C-49 on Sat Aug 28 20:05:40 2010. I don't think they buy them based on looks, but rather price! It does the job they were made to do, transport people. I'm also quite sure NABI will correct any problems that arise as it's their reputation on the line. With more than 1000 of them in California alone, I'm sure they know what they're doing. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Aug 28 21:04:32 2010, in response to PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat Aug 28 12:17:16 2010. Nice Shot! I always liked that wall mural thing.Hmm....wasn't 5405 a Newton Ave bus? |
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Posted by Triangle Junction on Sat Aug 28 21:38:16 2010, in response to PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat Aug 28 12:17:16 2010. Isn't it the customization that screwed up this batch? |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sat Aug 28 22:49:07 2010, in response to PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat Aug 28 12:17:16 2010. ..and what a fugly future it is. I hope they run better than they look. |
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Posted by RiverLINE3501 on Sat Aug 28 23:43:16 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Aug 28 21:04:32 2010. Yeah, 5405 was originally a Newton Ave bus. It was swapped with a newer 5500 series and sent up to Greenville because the yuppie f*cks in Hoboken riding the 126 thought they were too good to ride a transit bus. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Aug 29 01:02:21 2010, in response to PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat Aug 28 12:17:16 2010. That NABI bus makes the Orion VII look amazing. Nice pic though. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 29 01:10:20 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 28 20:10:41 2010. First of all, you don't know what you are talking about. Second of all, check your email you hypocritical dumbass. |
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Posted by rionOne on Sun Aug 29 02:46:12 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 28 20:10:41 2010. You are absolutely correct, when the smoke clears off this order all of the Non-Cruiser 40-foot buses will be NABI Model 416.15s. Which in a sense is good, but then its not. Its good because NJT would save in parts stock and what not but its not because when it comes time, they're gonna have to replace over 1,100 buses in one shot!-Trev |
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Posted by QM18Express on Sun Aug 29 03:38:08 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by RiverLINE3501 on Sat Aug 28 23:43:16 2010. I honestly think thats a load of BS about those yuppies on the 126. Those yuppies will be dealing with the transit NABIs sooner or later |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Aug 29 09:51:18 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by rionOne on Sun Aug 29 02:46:12 2010. However, NJT did buy over 1,300 buses in one shot before (is that the largest single-bus order ever)? |
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Posted by blue8IRT on Sun Aug 29 11:57:27 2010, in response to PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Sat Aug 28 12:17:16 2010. I love buses, but are they bleeding into the subchat side? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 29 20:46:37 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Aug 29 09:51:18 2010. Aha! He didn't take that into account! Good thinking! |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Mon Aug 30 09:41:56 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by rionOne on Sun Aug 29 02:46:12 2010. The delivery is wisely being spread out over six years, so it shouldn’t be a big deal to buy replacements over a similar time span. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Mon Aug 30 11:42:12 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by RiverLINE3501 on Sat Aug 28 23:43:16 2010. It was swapped with a newer 5500 series and sent up to Greenville because the yuppie f*cks in Hoboken riding the 126 thought they were too good to ride a transit bus.Well, they're gonna learn the hard way..... |
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Posted by rionOne on Mon Aug 30 11:45:27 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by RailBus63 on Mon Aug 30 09:41:56 2010. That is true, but they'll end up ordering over 1000 buses in one whop still and then spread the delivery times. |
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Posted by rionOne on Mon Aug 30 11:47:02 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Aug 29 09:51:18 2010. Yep, but just like this order (which is spread over 6 years), it was spread over 3 years. The MONEY used to purchase isn't paid over time, its paid all at the same time. So still a bad move in a time of financial crunch. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Aug 30 12:45:25 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by rionOne on Mon Aug 30 11:47:02 2010. Yes and no...it kind of saves on the engineering costs as well as the cost (in employee time) of going through the bidding process with RFPs and such like that. Plus, buying buses in such large bulk could likely reduce the price-per-bus as well.Additionally, with buying buses in per-year batches, can't they make minor modifications to fit their needs (such as CAT vs ISLs, although that was kind of forced upon them). But now, I'm surprised to learn that the payment isn't awarded after each batch of buses is delivered! That will definitely be a headache at the end of the 6 year contract period. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Aug 30 13:02:07 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 29 20:46:37 2010. However, here, NJT is slated to receive about 200 buses a year. |
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Posted by rionOne on Mon Aug 30 21:11:07 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Aug 30 12:45:25 2010. Modifications, no, not unless its something of a part that is being discontinued LIKE the engines. Any modification will change the price per unit. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Tue Aug 31 23:40:44 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by rionOne on Mon Aug 30 21:11:07 2010. Or, as was the case with SEPTA, if the original style is being phased out with a newer style - the current New Flyer order started off with DE40LFs (8120-8219 in 2008, 8220-8339 in 2009) before SEPTA began recieveing the restyled (or, as some of us in Philly call them, "Remixes") DE40LFR - 8340-8459. |
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Posted by rionOne on Wed Sep 1 01:23:05 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by ctrabs74 on Tue Aug 31 23:40:44 2010. Well prepare for SEPTA to be pissed off because our 135 New Flyer CNG buses are coming in as C40LF Low Floors with the ORIGINAL face. Powered by Cummins ISL G and Allison Bus Series B 400R ATEC IV Transmissions.-T. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 07:32:44 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by rionOne on Wed Sep 1 01:23:05 2010. Didn't you say that line has been shut down? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Sep 1 07:50:43 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Aug 29 09:51:18 2010. However, NJT did buy over 1,300 buses in one shot before (is that the largest single-bus order ever)?You guys beat us in Philly. The Neoplan order was the largest order in history of SEPTA, as well for Neoplan USA back in 1982. One-thousand-ninety-two (1092) units were purchased from 1982-1989. While many buses throughout the orders changed, much has remained the same.  |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Sep 1 08:01:05 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 29 01:10:20 2010. Terrapin, you and 9 local are at odds,calling him a dumb-ass is cruel.Why can't you just say, "I disrespect your opinion", or something like that? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Sep 1 08:13:21 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Aug 29 01:02:21 2010. That new NABI front is hard to get use to. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 12:48:02 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by rionOne on Wed Sep 1 01:23:05 2010. bumpDidn't you say that line has been shut down? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 12:57:56 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by rionOne on Wed Sep 1 01:23:05 2010. our 135 New Flyer CNG buses are coming in as C40LF Low Floors with the ORIGINAL face. Word on the street is that these are suppose to be LFs with the old face. However, I don't believe it, NFI did away with that face as a standard and stated that you'd have to pay extra for the old face. I don't think we're in a position to pay extra, and paying extra would easily put the DBNA bid cheaper than the New Flyer bid. But I guess this will be one of those we'll see things... Take Pride,
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 13:03:19 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Sep 1 08:01:05 2010. Because I don't "disrespect his opinion". That's the whole point! He wanted me to engage him in communication! He posted lies here as part of his public effort to say that he wanted me to engage him in communication! So I sent him an email but he hasn't checked it yet. Doesn't that seem hypocritical?? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Sep 1 13:57:40 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 13:03:19 2010. OK, sounds good. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 14:30:46 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Sep 1 13:57:40 2010. OK, sounds good. Thanks for your understanding, Chuck. Take Pride,
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 1 15:08:41 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 13:03:19 2010. Not to mention you aren't the only person he has tried doing this with. It is part of a larger pattern. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Sep 1 17:49:26 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Sep 1 08:01:05 2010. Chuck, when someone keeps spreading insults - - and constantly tells that person to "open his email", that "someone" has a sick mind. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 19:06:37 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Sep 1 17:49:26 2010. Do you even realize how stupid you sound? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 2 01:13:34 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by CapitalCruiser on Sat Aug 28 20:32:28 2010. It does the job they were made to do, transport peopleAt what cost? |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Sep 2 01:21:01 2010, in response to Re: PHOTO:THE FUTURE of Jersey, posted by rionOne on Wed Sep 1 01:23:05 2010. Why would the MTA make such an effort to get these New Flyers with the original face, especially with all of these Next Generation buses running around? They'll look soooooo old before they start running! |
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