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What is the Q89?

Posted by E and F and sometimes J on Mon Jun 14 09:11:43 2010

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Looking at the schedule of the weekdays only Q89 I can't figure out who this bus is supposed to serve.

I would call it a shoppers special but it doesn't run on weekends. You can't use it to get to work. Unless you work a four hour shift. The majority of it's route is not shared by any other bus. Which makes it's anemic schedule even more peculiar. It does hit the subway at the 165th St Terminal but again it's schedule makes it impossible to use.

So what is the purpose of the Q89?

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(198417)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jun 14 10:21:07 2010, in response to What is the Q89?, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Mon Jun 14 09:11:43 2010.

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I agree the purpose of the Q 89 or Q 9A is weird in terms of schedule but its main purpose was to give Linden Blvd (west) service to Jamaica. As we have mention in other post. The route needs to be a crosstown Queens route to L.I. and Gateway Mall via Linden Blvd.

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(198419)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jun 14 10:30:38 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by B49 Limited on Mon Jun 14 10:21:07 2010.

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At the time, the Q9A was intended to serve a Social Security office out that way. It connected to the subway until the Jamaica Avenue el was cut back to Queens Boulevard.

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(198427)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jun 14 12:39:24 2010, in response to What is the Q89?, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Mon Jun 14 09:11:43 2010.

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I think it was supposed to serve this senior citizen complex on Liden Blvd. I've never seen more than 4 people on a Q89.

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(198428)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by Pablo M 201 on Mon Jun 14 12:41:12 2010, in response to What is the Q89?, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Mon Jun 14 09:11:43 2010.

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It's the possible start of a slow death. I've seen change like this all too well.

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by BusMgr on Mon Jun 14 17:40:35 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jun 14 10:30:38 2010.

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Or more precisely, its operation was a condition for the siting of the South Jamaica Multi-Service Center on the corner of Linden Blvd and Guy R Brewer Blvd.

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 14 17:44:32 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jun 14 10:30:38 2010.

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Where is said office?

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon Jun 14 18:26:04 2010, in response to What is the Q89?, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Mon Jun 14 09:11:43 2010.

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[Looking at the schedule of the weekdays only Q89 I can't figure out who this bus is supposed to serve.]


Nobody.

The route was established by Green Bus Lines as a pure "franchise holder" - in other words, its only purpose was to prevent anybody else from running local along that segment of Linden.

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by DOWNTOWN EXPRESS on Mon Jun 14 21:14:31 2010, in response to What is the Q89?, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Mon Jun 14 09:11:43 2010.

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Only MTA bus can make that kind of decision to extend the route and expand the hours to better serve Ozone Park and South Jamaica.

I would love to see it connect to the A at Rockaway Blvd and go to Gateway mall or even lindenwood. That could spell death for the Q41 very slowly.

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by Nyctransitman on Mon Jun 14 23:07:21 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by DOWNTOWN EXPRESS on Mon Jun 14 21:14:31 2010.

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The Q89 should have been restructured into a crosstown route between Gateway Center Mall in Brooklyn and Franklin Square in Nassau County via Gateway Drive, Fountain Avenue, Linden Blvd./No. & So. Conduit Avenues, Cross Bay Blvd., Rockaway Blvd. Linden Blvd., Dutch Broadway, and Franklin Avenue to Hempstead Tpke.



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(198512)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by B49 Limited on Tue Jun 15 01:24:54 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon Jun 14 18:26:04 2010.

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If that is the case that was a smart move by Green Lines, because that portion of Linden Blvd does have potential.

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(198514)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jun 15 01:29:30 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by Nyctransitman on Mon Jun 14 23:07:21 2010.

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Agreed. The Q41 would be better extended to Rockaway Park with the Q21 eliminated.

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(198515)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by B49 Limited on Tue Jun 15 01:29:57 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by Nyctransitman on Mon Jun 14 23:07:21 2010.

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Ok lets remove the LI portion of the route because right now that would not happen until MTA takes a current existing route beyond NIMBY county lines (just to clarify we already have Q5,85, 111, and 113 already serving Nassau county).

So the question would be can the Q 89 survive if it was a crosstown route that terminated at Cambria Heights and Gateway Center.

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jun 15 01:41:47 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by Nyctransitman on Mon Jun 14 23:07:21 2010.

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I'm glad to see that you agree with my idea, but it should also serve the Brooklyn General Mail Facility as it's the de facto bus terminal for East New York, and the Franklin Hospital Medical Center by rerouting it down Corona Avenue and Park Drive in Valley Stream.

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(198518)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 15 01:43:46 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jun 15 01:29:30 2010.

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However, remember why the Q21 was extended---to eliminate the Q11 short-turns to Pitkin (except during the rush hour).

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(198519)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 15 01:45:03 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon Jun 14 18:26:04 2010.

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Was it created before 1977 though? (That is when the Jamaica Avenue el was closed through the heart of Jamaica and cut back to Queens Boulevard.)

Before 1977, the Q9A did connect to a subway line.

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by B49 Limited on Tue Jun 15 02:00:23 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 15 01:43:46 2010.

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How about a terminal swap? Q 21 terminates in Lindenwood/ Q 41 terminates in Rockaway Pk (next to the Q 53 terminal and not the Q 35 terminal)

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(198529)

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jun 15 09:07:13 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 15 01:45:03 2010.

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Before 1977, the Q9A did connect to a subway line.

From what I can tell, the Q9A route came into existence sometime in the mid-1980s.

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Re: What is the Q89?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 15 09:31:55 2010, in response to Re: What is the Q89?, posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jun 15 09:07:13 2010.

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Ah okay.

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