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Posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 21:49:57 2009 Get your cameras at the ready because the former Bee Lines Orions have begun to arrive at MTA Bus and will go into service possibly as early as tomorrow, Friday November 27th.LaGuardia Depot has so far received delivery of at least 4 of these former Bee Lines Orions. Spotted in the garage this morning were Numbers 101,102,103 and 112. They all are now in the MTA Livery and have fare boxes installed. LaGuardia may receive as many as 20 of these buses over the next few days. Note that the blue stripe wraps around the entire bus, including the rear of the bus. I did not get to enter any of these buses but they look great as far as the exterior goes. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 26 21:51:42 2009, in response to They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 21:49:57 2009. Woot! Now I have a reason to take the Q39 over the Q67. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 26 21:56:11 2009, in response to They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 21:49:57 2009. I may stop by there tomorrow. Are buses parked anymore on the 85th Street side? |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Nov 26 21:58:04 2009, in response to They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 21:49:57 2009. I just hope LGA doesn't beat them up too badly. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 22:02:43 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 26 21:56:11 2009. At 3:30 AM today, all except for No. 101 were inside the garage itself. It's possible that they may be moved outside by tomorrow but then again, anything is possible. Bus No. 101 was outside the 23rd ave. exit but by 5AM had been moved elsewhere. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 26 22:35:27 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 22:02:43 2009. I'm also hoping that they will be in service tomorrow or Monday. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Q18-65PL on Thu Nov 26 23:34:23 2009, in response to They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 21:49:57 2009. That's a surprise. Only JFK AND Far Rockaway were thought to be getting them. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 26 23:49:29 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Q18-65PL on Thu Nov 26 23:34:23 2009. Not really.... LaGuardia and Baisley Park were on the list, but it wasn't confirmed.LaGuardia Baisley Park Far Rockaway JFK Eastchester Were the garages sought to receive the buses. SO LaGuardia has been confirmed for now.... -Trevor |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 27 00:10:53 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 26 23:49:29 2009. The question is: How would the sign work on the former Steinway Transit routes? |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Fri Nov 27 00:16:31 2009, in response to They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 21:49:57 2009. Looks like all the 1990 RTSs and Original MTA Bus RTS are done for. Get your last look at them before their gone. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by rionOne on Fri Nov 27 00:21:35 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 27 00:10:53 2009. Well go ride on and find out. My guess is they've probably eliminated the use of the side route sign and have everything in the lower sign.-Trevor |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Nov 27 00:21:41 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 27 00:10:53 2009. There was a similar situation with the ex-Green Bus Lines Orion V buses, the MTA just removed the electronic route sign and programmed the electronic side destination sign so that it will show the route designation in addition to the destination. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Fri Nov 27 00:27:18 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Nov 26 21:58:04 2009. I don't care, as long as I get to see them. The Q39 is now the most interesting route on my area. Better than looking at same crap of Fresh Pond's routes; I only care for the originals. Sick and tired of hand-me-down RTSs other than 1998 Novas. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Nov 27 00:34:49 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Nov 27 00:21:41 2009. The Green Line Vs still had the flip DOT signs when MTA took over? I thought they were all converted to LED signs by then. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Nov 27 01:26:19 2009, in response to They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 21:49:57 2009. Yay! LGA depot will have that Orion V/RTS 1/2 punch! I'm so mad I missed out when KB and YUK was like that. At least I got exp it with Green lines and SC lol. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Nov 27 01:32:55 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 26 22:35:27 2009. Why are they here? LGA IS NOT supposed to have these!! |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Fri Nov 27 01:38:32 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Nov 27 00:34:49 2009. No, he describes how MTA reprogram the destination signs. They have LED signs.Anyway the ex-Bee Line Orion V LCD destination side signs fit the MTA destination signs, they really dont need the route box sign. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Fri Nov 27 01:41:24 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Nov 27 01:32:55 2009. Gee wiz, LGA needs these badly to replace older buses. At least, MTA made the right move to but these buses. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Nov 27 02:04:38 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Fri Nov 27 00:16:31 2009. That includes the 8400s & 8500s. 8419 is now officially scrap. Sorry I didnt mean to flip out b 4. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 27 02:21:56 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 26 21:51:42 2009. In my case, I like taking the Q67 home from work in the afternoon (I take the Q39 on the way in quite early) because it is much less crowded. The Q39 gets loads of school kids at least on my riding schedule.It does make sense in LGA getting a batch since they do have a lot more buses due to be replaced than JFK and FR does. I assume Baisley Park will get some too since they still have a bunch of 8000-8300 series RTS', many there since day one of MTA bus takeover. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 27 02:24:08 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Nov 26 21:58:04 2009. Ha Ha!I agree with you, but I wouldn't hold my breath. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 27 02:30:28 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Nov 27 02:04:38 2009. Nah, you didn't flip out.You just didn't expect some to get assigned to LGA, that's all. Neither did I. But once the 30 NG's came in a few weeks ago and there were still a bunch of low 8000's and original QSC RTS' still there, they needed something to replace them, other than more 8400/8500's which would be there only temporarily. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Fri Nov 27 02:42:04 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Nov 27 00:21:41 2009. MTA just removed the electronic route signMTA never did. It was Green Lines did it before the takeover. It was replace with Luuminator Horizon. MTA did the reprogramming the destination signs. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Nov 27 04:25:45 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 27 02:30:28 2009. It will be even weirder seeing these 100s on the Q-67 etc...... |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 27 04:34:58 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Nov 27 04:25:45 2009. It will be weird to see them out of anybody's depot. |
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PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Q37SouthOzonePark on Fri Nov 27 14:33:22 2009, in response to They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 21:49:57 2009. There were a few out. I also didn't see ANY 1990 TMCs at the depot     And a few others I found    
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Re: PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Fri Nov 27 14:57:48 2009, in response to PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Q37SouthOzonePark on Fri Nov 27 14:33:22 2009. hmm, I think they need to spend more money on repainting the ex-Bee Line buses... |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Nov 27 17:05:47 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 27 04:34:58 2009. Theres alot more of them at LGA. At least 15 or so. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 19:36:34 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 27 02:24:08 2009. Yeah, I'm still crossing my fingers :( |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 19:36:57 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Fri Nov 27 00:27:18 2009. Yeah that's true... |
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Re: PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 19:37:30 2009, in response to PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Q37SouthOzonePark on Fri Nov 27 14:33:22 2009. Nice! |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 19:40:05 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by GOLD_12th on Fri Nov 27 01:41:24 2009. Yes, but they could've sent all the ex-Bee line buses to Far Rock, JFK, and BP. In turn FR and JFK can then send to LGA their displaced hybrids. That would be a fair trade wouldn't it? |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 27 19:46:07 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 19:40:05 2009. JFK though is still slated for 25 more NGs, which would be enough to kill off the remaining RTSs and bus 256. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 19:46:48 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 27 02:21:56 2009. Good points, I guess they didn't want to move too many buses around. Personally I would've thought it would've made more sense to leave the ex-BL buses at FR, JFK, and BP and in turn displace some FR and JFK buses to send to LGA [plus it easily would've lowered LGA's average fleet age].But if there is any place that probably could use new buses as much as LGA, it is BP. I never understood why they couldn't just leave the ex-JBL buses there and send the older TMCs to the ex-GL and ex-TBC. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 19:48:25 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 19:46:48 2009. *By the FR and JFK buses, I mean the hybrids. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 20:00:38 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 27 19:46:07 2009. So with the arrival of the ex-BL buses: is 5926 still safe and what will happen to the 8600s FR has? |
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Re: PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Nov 27 20:22:28 2009, in response to PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Q37SouthOzonePark on Fri Nov 27 14:33:22 2009. Nice photos! |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Nov 27 20:26:29 2009, in response to They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCC Senior Man on Thu Nov 26 21:49:57 2009. Did anybody stop by FR, SC, JFK or BP to see if any ex BL buses came to those depots? |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Nov 28 00:43:17 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 27 02:21:56 2009. I'd rather take the Q67 too as it's faster than the Q39, gets less crowded than the Q39, and is way more reliable than the Q39, but the Q67 just doesn't go where I want to go unless I want to walk 10 minutes from the bus stop to my destination. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sat Nov 28 01:12:16 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Nov 27 19:46:48 2009. That's why I feel that MTA Bus should have gotten most of the NG's. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sat Nov 28 01:13:57 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 27 19:46:07 2009. 256 was on the Q60 yesterday. Got photos of it outside 71st Avenue station. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Nov 28 07:22:14 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Nov 28 00:43:17 2009. The Q67 has better schedule adherence than the Q39. On paper, the Q39 does provide more service tho. But I come home from work during the tail end of school dismissal time, so the Q39 hasn't "recovered" yet. That's why the Q67 works out better for me, even though it is a slightly longer walk after I get off. |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 28 11:27:36 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by 33rd Street on Sat Nov 28 01:12:16 2009. So send those ex-BL's to say MJQ? ;) |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Pelham Exp on Sat Nov 28 12:20:45 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 28 11:27:36 2009. no..we don't want them |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 28 12:33:06 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Pelham Exp on Sat Nov 28 12:20:45 2009. Ok, why? |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by rionOne on Sat Nov 28 13:00:54 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Pelham Exp on Sat Nov 28 12:20:45 2009. shit they are in better shape than your 8600s and 1996 Nova RTSs. Bee Line's maintenance is impeccable, you don't see a bus out there with body damage. Very little of their buses rattle. And as much as I'm not a fan of the 400-Series Orions from Bee Line, they are in almost factory fresh condition.-Trevor |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by rionOne on Sat Nov 28 13:02:06 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Pelham Exp on Sat Nov 28 12:20:45 2009. shit they are in better shape than your 8600s and 1996 Nova RTSs. Bee Line's maintenance is impeccable, you don't see a bus out there with body damage. Very little of their buses rattle. And as much as I'm not a fan of the 400-Series Orions from Bee Line, they are in almost factory fresh condition.-Trevor |
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Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sat Nov 28 14:34:31 2009, in response to Re: They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 28 11:27:36 2009. Hell yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing from Orion V's at MJQ. I'm dying to ride an Orion V on the 21. |
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Re: PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses |
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Posted by TCO on Sat Nov 28 15:40:46 2009, in response to PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by Q37SouthOzonePark on Fri Nov 27 14:33:22 2009. MTA is really cheap to repaint ex bee line buses.David |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 28 17:07:43 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: (Re): They Have Begun to Arrive - Former Bee Lines Buses, posted by TCO on Sat Nov 28 15:40:46 2009. Maybe so, but at least they are running them now than still at eastchester to wait for a full body repaint. It even took some time before the ex-PBL buses were repainted. The MTA just slapped their logo over the former pbl line logos. |
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