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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Nov 16 23:02:50 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Transbuster104 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:18 2009. That 5117 is a T drive, yes? |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Mon Nov 16 23:15:21 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Nov 16 21:51:53 2009. You're only spiting yourself, certainly not NYCT.Care to elaborate. The MTA has been screwing Avenue C for years. That's why they keep on trying to cut service on the 21. The TA may want to eliminate it but B/O's enjoy operating the M21. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 16 23:51:38 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by 33rd Street on Mon Nov 16 23:15:21 2009. In the sense that you are missing out on the vintage buses because of the MTA not running them on the route that you want them to. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Tue Nov 17 00:09:22 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 16 23:51:38 2009. What do you expect, the TA would rather put vintage buses on routes where the riders are spoiled. Take the M14 and 14th Street for example. Those riders don't deserve anything. The M21 is one of the few routes that takes you to SoHo (a tourist attraction). Either way, not running vintage bus is like telling M21 riders "Fuck You." |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Nov 17 00:14:34 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by 33rd Street on Tue Nov 17 00:09:22 2009. Well, I can't speak for the MTA and I would guess the only thing you can do is write them a letter about why they should run the vintage bus on the M21.And personally I would think the best routes [obviously 'tourist lines'] would be the M42 and M34 *imo. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Tue Nov 17 00:30:19 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Nov 17 00:14:34 2009. I've grown to accept the fact that bitching leads to no where. I'm not going to waste my time to write to the MTA. Maybe, I should make a recommendation to Community Board 3. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Nov 17 00:43:27 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by 33rd Street on Tue Nov 17 00:30:19 2009. Go for it. Hopefully it'll work out. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Nov 17 06:46:13 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 16 21:57:59 2009. Hell yeah he did. Whenever 5227 was out it was a great ride. Rode it on the last day that the vintage buses were out, and 5227 was on the M57 and the driver did not disappoint, especially on West End Avenue. |
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Posted by Triangle Junction on Tue Nov 17 08:31:42 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Nov 16 20:27:16 2009. I wonder if he does regular service runs |
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Posted by rionOne on Tue Nov 17 08:56:52 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by 33rd Street on Mon Nov 16 21:49:36 2009. You Missed Out! |
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Posted by DOUBLE DECKER DOUG on Tue Nov 17 10:08:23 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Mon Nov 16 17:09:31 2009. ONLY ONE BUS WILL BE IN SERVICE PER DAY 2TRIPS IN THE MOURNING AND 2 TRIPS IN THE AFTERNOON AND MWAP I KNOW PZ TOO |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 10:52:56 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by DOUBLE DECKER DOUG on Tue Nov 17 10:08:23 2009. Triple D, I did not get a chance to talk to PZ or JM today, so thanks for the update. It's nice to know that there is more thanone person who know's what is going on with the Vintage Fleet, and is willing to share that information with others. MWAP |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 17 12:25:53 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by DOUBLE DECKER DOUG on Tue Nov 17 10:08:23 2009. So 2 trips from 10 AM to noon and then from noon to 2? |
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Posted by rionOne on Tue Nov 17 12:30:01 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 17 12:25:53 2009. From the way he is describing it, the bus is gonna run 4 Round Trips per day, 2 in the AM & 2 in the PM much like last year.-Trevor |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 17 12:56:34 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by rionOne on Tue Nov 17 12:30:01 2009. That would conflict with what he said last week then... So... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 17 12:57:20 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by DOUBLE DECKER DOUG on Tue Nov 17 10:08:23 2009. Sucks for the people who'd rather take photos than ride. Luckily I'm not one of them! |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Tue Nov 17 14:41:59 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by rionOne on Tue Nov 17 08:56:52 2009. You don't have to remind me! |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Nov 17 14:48:01 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Nov 17 06:46:13 2009. Awesome! |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Nov 17 14:49:13 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Triangle Junction on Tue Nov 17 08:31:42 2009. Yeah I wonder as well. Pity the buses can't go beyond a set speed, but I'm sure it is still a hell of a ride :) |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Nov 17 15:26:43 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by 33rd Street on Mon Nov 16 21:44:19 2009. I wish I could drive them on my RDO's from RTO. I missed that last one out of UP by 6 mouths back in 1995. |
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Posted by The Pipe on Tue Nov 17 16:16:36 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 10:52:56 2009. What whit the old look Bus GM (TDH-5106) Bus 7144 and new look Bus GMC (TDH-5303) Bus 3758? Are they working on them at East New York Base Shop? |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 18:42:40 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by The Pipe on Tue Nov 17 16:16:36 2009. 7144 is being worked on, and will not be able to make it tothe Vinyage Bus Holiday Run. As for 3758, I belive that it is not being worked on and is in storage like the rest of the GM's and Flxible New-Looks. MWAP |
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Posted by Transbuster104 on Tue Nov 17 19:25:42 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 18:42:40 2009. Eventually will Museum Bus #3758 be worked on again sometime next year and get a new paint job? |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 19:37:30 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Transbuster104 on Tue Nov 17 19:25:42 2009. 3758 was given a new paint job a few years ago. I havenot heard anything as to what will be done with this in terms of restorations. MWAP |
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Posted by Transbuster104 on Tue Nov 17 19:51:44 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 19:37:30 2009. Does GMC Museum Bus #3758 still have electrical and mechanical problems? |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 20:14:50 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Transbuster104 on Tue Nov 17 19:51:44 2009. Can't give you an answer to that question. I have been followingthe old look GM's, and the Mack C49DT since they are going to be in passenger service for the holidays. I can ask someone, and get back the info to the site. MWAP |
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Posted by Transbuster104 on Tue Nov 17 20:39:24 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 20:14:50 2009. Thank you! And good luck with Museum Bus #2969 during the Holiday Bus Service. I would have rather seen NYC Transit just put 2969 on display at Grand Central Station for tourists. |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 20:47:14 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Transbuster104 on Tue Nov 17 20:39:24 2009. Personally, I would rather have all of the old looks in passengerservice, and have some of the GMC and Flxible new looks on display. MWAP |
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Posted by Transbuster104 on Tue Nov 17 21:02:58 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 17 20:47:14 2009. I'm just saying that the 1948 GMC 5101 model Old Look model bus #2969 is so precious and was considered like the Jackie Gleason Bus from the "Honeymooners". So that is why this 61 year old gem should be put on display in Manhattan. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Nov 17 21:24:50 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Transbuster104 on Tue Nov 17 21:02:58 2009. I cant say I disagree at all with you but look at the bright side; it shows our throw-away society that something old doesn't have to be put out to pasture simply for being old. My daily driver is 31 years old itself and I have a 38 year old car that runs but I dont have on the road to save on insurance over the winter. |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 18 00:20:15 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Transbuster104 on Tue Nov 17 19:25:42 2009. 3758 is at the ENY Base Shop with 303,1263,2124,7144,1059,5117,8466,8928,5227,93001, and 6350. I belive that these buses along with 100,2175,3100,2969,9098, and 6229 will be stored there on a permeant basis. MWAP |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Wed Nov 18 01:14:18 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 18 00:20:15 2009. 6229 ???WE-44 |
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Posted by rionOne on Wed Nov 18 01:14:59 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Westcode44 on Wed Nov 18 01:14:18 2009. You know he meant 6259! LOL! |
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Posted by Mr RT on Wed Nov 18 07:44:14 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Nov 16 21:35:06 2009. In the subways there is more of a reason for new folks to get this experience, i.e. it's Div C guys who operate older equip. (work trains). The bus div. doesn't modify & keep old buses for service calls anymore. |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 18 08:37:28 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Westcode44 on Wed Nov 18 01:14:18 2009. Sorry Westcode44, I meant 6259.MWAP |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 18 08:52:14 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 18 08:37:28 2009. I have been informed that the buses that are going to run on theM42 route are at MJQ Depot, and the maint. personal will be doing some testing on these buses to get them ready for service next week. MWAP |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 08:52:53 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 18 08:52:14 2009. What kind of testing? OOS runs along 42 St today? |
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Posted by moviebuses on Wed Nov 18 09:42:22 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Mon Nov 16 20:54:45 2009. You would need to be a true idiot if you could not sit in the drivers seat of any bus and not be able to drive it. Todays bus drivers are mostly lazy and they just dont want to do any extra work. If your too dim witted to drive a fishbowl, then where does your brain start working to drive an old look?Lets compare.... they are all about 40 foot long, 102 inches wide. They are basically all shaped the same, they all drive with an accelerator and a brake and a steering wheel. I feel as an operator that if a driver said he could not drive something because it doesnt have the immenities of a 2009 Nabi or Gillig then that driver needs to be fired. In this day of not alot of work and people clamouring for money I would think that most bus drivers would be on their best behaviour. |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 18 09:55:00 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by moviebuses on Wed Nov 18 09:42:22 2009. I feel the same as you do.MWAP |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 18 11:42:59 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 18 08:52:14 2009. But what times? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 18 11:47:13 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Mon Nov 16 20:54:45 2009. If that is a problem (not enough operators who can drive without power steering), it may increase over time. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 18 12:21:45 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 18 11:42:59 2009. Go out and about looking for them as you always do!Its time to get real in the field! (On serious note, they'll probably be out test driving during the midday hours. The MTA definitely does not want those buses out later than 4 PM, the latest 5.) |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 12:53:16 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 18 12:21:45 2009. Yeah, I remember when I rode that Flx on the M50 (which was caught in IMMENSE traffic) the driver was saying how that bus should have been back in the depot by then (it was getting pretty late, dark and such. I think it was 4:30 to 5)! |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 12:57:19 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Manwithaplan on Mon Nov 16 20:54:45 2009. The Old Looks have power steering? |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 18 13:43:12 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 12:53:16 2009. Hmmmm....I think I was on that bus. Was it a woman driving who then was able to get onto 42nd Street and then got on the opposite lanes and drove up to 11th Avenue? |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:00:20 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 18 13:43:12 2009. Yes indeed - that good old blue bus. I was the dude trying to record in the middle of the bus as the foamers in the back went "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! every time the engine revved up. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 18 14:06:36 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:00:20 2009. LOL! Ah, that was you. I think I was in the seat after the front doors.Yeah those guys really did enjoy that bus.... |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:52:38 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 18 14:06:36 2009. Indeed. Sadly, I must say that if I ever have the pleasure of riding a bus powered by a screaming 6v92TA hooked up to an HT series Allisons transmission, I might give a little woo myself, hehe.Man, I miss that powertrain. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 18 14:58:03 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 18 14:06:36 2009. front doors.back doors. sorry. |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 18 15:19:43 2009, in response to Re: Vintage Buses, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 12:57:19 2009. Hell No!!!!MWAP |
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