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Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009

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The 84 Orion 05.501s purchased by the MTA from the Westchester County Bee-Line System. They are numbered 100-184.

TTMG Teamster Emmanuel Nicolas grabbed some shots...





-Trevor
www.ttmg.org

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Ken S. on Thu Nov 5 17:41:59 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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The MTA stripe on those buses looks very Grumman 870ish.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Nov 5 17:44:45 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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Thanks for the update. Those are my favorite Bee-Line buses and now there's really no reason for me to fan Bee-Line anymore unless I want to ride the nice and long 14 route.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Nov 5 17:45:37 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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Nice catch to the person who took these pics, I'm shocked they didn't whiteback these buses.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Nov 5 17:57:37 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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It appears the MTA is spending very little money retrofitting these buses.

Are they keeping the Bee-Line Rims, or replacing them with the white MTA rims, Also, not even a full paint job, a simple cover-up and go. I guess the MTA don't feel these buses are going to be around very long.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by busdude2 on Thu Nov 5 18:01:42 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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They look great with the darker stripe yes just like the grummans.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu Nov 5 18:08:41 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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Impressive pics. The number 127 on one of them throws me off a bit. Would anyone happen to know what they're numbering the ex-Bee Line Orions?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 5 18:10:02 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Nov 5 17:45:37 2009.

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I'm shocked they didn't whiteback these buses.

Why are you shocked? If the buses don't need a repaint, then why waste the paint?


Take Pride,
Terrapin Station


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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Thu Nov 5 18:10:35 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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Which depot will get these 100s first?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 18:10:57 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu Nov 5 18:08:41 2009.

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Uh, 100s....

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 18:13:03 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Thu Nov 5 18:10:35 2009.

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The initial report was that 50 of them were going to LGA. However, at last report it was to be Eastchester, JFK and Far Rock...NO LGA. However like all things MTA, things are always subject to change.


-Trevor
www.ttmg.org

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu Nov 5 18:13:20 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu Nov 5 18:08:41 2009.

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Really? I would've gone with #2401-2484 personally.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Q37SouthOzonePark on Thu Nov 5 18:21:18 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 18:13:03 2009.

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Orion Vs back at LGA would be crazy

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Thu Nov 5 18:21:55 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 18:13:03 2009.

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Good!!! LGA will destroy those poor things LOL!!!

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Nov 5 18:45:12 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 18:13:03 2009.

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I hope it isn't LGA :( I want them over at Far Rockaway.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Nov 5 18:45:24 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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Thanks for the update!

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Nov 5 18:50:28 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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Something odd about that photo of #127. There is a bright white patch where the advertisement was removed - shouldn't there also be a corresponding bright white area where the yellow stripe would have been painted over? The area around the right-side tail lights is the same shade of dull white all over.



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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Nov 5 19:08:46 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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IDK about the pics.... if you zoom in on the # 127, it appears odd the coloring.... and the shot below some the white is in strange shades, is it the photo lighting, or something more...

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by R160 8818 on Thu Nov 5 19:11:52 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 18:13:03 2009.

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And yet another report on another forum said the lineup would be FR/BP/JFK. Shows how quick-changing these plans can be.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Nov 5 19:25:21 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by R160 8818 on Thu Nov 5 19:11:52 2009.

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Such conflicting reports, I don't know what to believe anymore...
I still say those 3 would be better than to send the Bee line buses to LGA.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 5 19:47:38 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu Nov 5 18:08:41 2009.

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100s---the lowest active 1993 O5 still on the roster is 227.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 5 19:50:13 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 18:13:03 2009.

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I would imagine 12 to ECH, 50 to JFK and 22 to FRK?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Thu Nov 5 19:50:52 2009, in response to Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 17:38:08 2009.

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Wow - I guess all the TA 100s are retired and none are "reserve fleet" if these are in the 100s. BTW - isn't 100-184 85 buses? Also, any word on if they are getting the O7s from Bee Line as well?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 5 19:58:12 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Thu Nov 5 19:50:52 2009.

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101-184 are the bus numbers presumably. Reserve fleet units are coming from the 400-500 batch.

The lowest active TA 1993 Orion V unit left is 227. Aside from that, the remaining units in that series are 241-245, 249, 252, 255-256, and 304. Only 11 original ones remain.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 5 20:11:07 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by R160 8818 on Thu Nov 5 19:11:52 2009.

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Shows how quick-changing these plans can be.

Or rather it shows how much misinformation and lies exists on web forums, and how much certain members just eat the stuff right up, believe it to be valid.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Nov 5 20:28:19 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 5 20:11:07 2009.

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PWNED!!!

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Nov 5 20:32:23 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by R160 8818 on Thu Nov 5 19:11:52 2009.

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These days, I believe it when I see it. As much I as I respect Trevor, I don't believe some things that TTMG says. In addition, I've heard some things that T/O's have told me that were proven to be false.

At the present, I'm just going to sit back, eat some popcorn, and see what happens.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 22:12:35 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 5 19:50:13 2009.

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We'll see when the delivery happens...

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 22:19:36 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by 33rd Street on Thu Nov 5 20:32:23 2009.

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Kid, was that really necessary, the post you responded to didn't even say where he got that from, it could've been from a poster at the TTMG Forums, NYC Transit Forums, Bustalk III, Strapies, HERE!

So chill out fame...unnecessary name hustling.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Nov 5 22:42:42 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 22:19:36 2009.

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I will chill out.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Nov 5 22:43:18 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 22:12:35 2009.

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I'll do the same. I'll just sit and wait.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by mac5689 on Thu Nov 5 22:48:39 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by MTA_SI on Thu Nov 5 17:57:37 2009.

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that or they didn't want to spend the time or the money repainting the whole bus since they already had a blue stripe, although darker then the MTA's

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 5 23:43:14 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by 33rd Street on Thu Nov 5 22:43:18 2009.

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What choice do you have?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Nov 5 23:54:50 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 5 23:43:14 2009.

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Personally I'm hoping Far Rock gets a large batch of them. I kinda miss the O5s on the Q35 line.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 5 23:55:40 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by 33rd Street on Thu Nov 5 20:32:23 2009.

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TTMG said that 1308 has been in for weeks.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Nov 5 23:56:11 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by mac5689 on Thu Nov 5 22:48:39 2009.

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That's pretty smart. As in why waste extra $ to recolor the stripe? Plus at least then the buses retain something from Bee line.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 6 06:31:25 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by rionOne on Thu Nov 5 22:12:35 2009.

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On this board, that is an unacceptable statement!

They want to know what will happen tomorrow yesterday.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by rionOne on Fri Nov 6 07:07:00 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Nov 6 06:31:25 2009.

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You know that ole' saying.....


Oh Well, Too Late, Too Bad, So Sad, Bye Bye


:)

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Nov 6 08:38:12 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 5 18:10:02 2009.

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Why are you shocked? If the buses don't need a repaint, then why waste the paint?

Because they've wasted the paint on other buses that didn't need a repaint?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 6 08:42:08 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 5 18:10:02 2009.

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Because the MTA has repainted buses that then never left the garage until scrapping time.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 6 12:24:13 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Nov 6 08:38:12 2009.

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I didn't know that was the case. Those buses didn't need a repaint?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 6 12:24:41 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Nov 6 08:42:08 2009.

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such as?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Nov 6 13:35:44 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 6 12:24:13 2009.

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Those buses didn't need a repaint?

2-year-old Orion VIIs that got "whitebacked"?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Nov 6 13:36:22 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 6 12:24:41 2009.

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such as?

The 1983 RTSes immediately come to mind.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 6 14:04:29 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Nov 6 13:35:44 2009.

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"oh snap" - my bad then

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 6 14:05:01 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Nov 6 13:36:22 2009.

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thanks. but was there a decent potential for them to get called back into service?

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Nov 6 16:26:52 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Nov 6 13:35:44 2009.

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The 1977 9000 Flxibles also come to mind. We spoke about that during the past few days. They were repainted from the blue scheme to the white scheme beginning in 1978.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by B53RICH on Fri Nov 6 17:29:45 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Nov 6 16:26:52 2009.

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Similarly with the 1971 GM's in the 4300/4400 series. From green to blue in 1972.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Nov 6 17:32:18 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by B53RICH on Fri Nov 6 17:29:45 2009.

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True.

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Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line...

Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Nov 6 18:37:10 2009, in response to Re: Ex-Bee Line Orion 05.501 About To Come On Line..., posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Nov 6 17:32:18 2009.

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Not to nit pick,I think the # pattern should have been typed as 101-184. 100-184 is 85 buses.

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