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Posted by GOLD_12th on Wed Nov 4 01:05:45 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 4 00:35:10 2009. How is it wrong, Majority of the Triboro and Queen Surface units were withdrawn even with the MTA Bus numbers. |
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Posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 4 01:09:43 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by Q18-65PL on Wed Nov 4 00:47:49 2009. You Think? The money that is being spent on just one these pieces of shit, I could by 6 fishbowls from 1975 equipped with 8V-71 engines with N55 series injectors, and VS2-8 3-speed automatic transmissions with a 4-5/7 rear axle ratio and 1.04 angle drive gearing, and blow the fuckin' doors off the Orion NG.MWAP |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Wed Nov 4 01:11:01 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 4 00:23:55 2009. So does the NYBS Fishbowls... |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Nov 4 02:01:58 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by MTA_SI on Tue Nov 3 20:43:38 2009. That can't be 100% true because all I ever see Castleton running is NGs. Although OTOH, the few years of negligent maintenance seem to be catching up to CAS and Yukon as those Orion Vs are starting to break down a lot more. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 4 02:04:58 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by MTA_SI on Tue Nov 3 20:43:38 2009. Gotta love the no-bid contracts. The Novas didn't have teething problems like this. Their biggest problem was cracking the Alcoas. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 4 02:09:06 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by Manwithaplan on Tue Nov 3 22:55:03 2009. They will run 15 years at least. Remember, Toronto made Orion promise 18 years out of the VII. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 4 02:19:33 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Nov 4 02:01:58 2009. "Although OTOH, the few years of negligent maintenance seem to be catching up to CAS and Yukon as those Orion Vs are starting to break down a lot more."Again? Is the "maintenance initiative" over? |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 4 08:58:00 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 4 01:09:43 2009. LOL! Now thats what I'm talking about! I'll be glad to ride on that bus anyday. |
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Posted by Mr RT on Wed Nov 4 09:09:11 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 22:42:28 2009. In the past the TA has done their "as cheep as possible" routine ... mfg. have wanted the business because the TA is a big account, so they put in bids & won them.But in the subways & at the bus div. the TA then nickle & dimed these companys to death ... literary. So now there is very few mfg. out there. Somebody needs to tell those bean counters if you don't let the mfg. make a profit they aren't going to be there the next time ! |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Nov 4 09:16:09 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 4 01:09:43 2009. They never should've retired all the NYBS fishbowls. Yes I know about the ADA compliance, but that's a poor excuse to retire perfectly good buses. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 4 11:43:55 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by Mr RT on Wed Nov 4 09:09:11 2009. Yes indeed. Just look what happened to my namesakes (Flxible and Neoplan). |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Nov 4 12:20:34 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by Manwithaplan on Wed Nov 4 01:09:43 2009. I don't know, I think some of Staten Island's 55+mph rated NGs will leave those 6 Fishbowls in the dust. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Nov 4 13:25:18 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Nov 4 12:20:34 2009. I doubt it. The Fishbowls would leave a NG in the dust. To me, a Fishbowl is a bus, a NG isn't. |
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Posted by JFK DEPOT on Wed Nov 4 13:35:26 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 3 17:52:06 2009. LOL I think those SI Drivers are just a whole different breed of Drivers periodthe stories that come off that Island really do boogle the mind... Its like they take there Road Test in Jersey or something lol I cant understand how SI really runs thru buses.... |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 4 13:52:04 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by JFK DEPOT on Wed Nov 4 13:35:26 2009. When a few of them on the internet talk smack (over at SILive), I try to explain to them that their division isn't highly regarded. MTA_SI needs to defect to another borough so he can drive buses that get maintained every now and then. At least in Brooklyn, you don't have to be politically connected to get decent bus service. JG and FLA don't make a habit of keeping garbage buses on the road. |
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Posted by JFK DEPOT on Wed Nov 4 14:13:28 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 4 11:43:55 2009. I have a good question about the Grumman Flx'slol why is it NYCTA had problems with them but yet they get sold to NJT and shipped across the Hudson to run for years on end I cant understand why we couldnt fix the quote unquote cracked frames LMAO if the frames were so bad NJT wouldnt have bought right ???? I think theres alot more too this than some frames I think politics played a role with this |
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Posted by caine515 on Wed Nov 4 14:43:00 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by JFK DEPOT on Wed Nov 4 14:13:28 2009. It did. I think because the bus burnt up near MTA headquarters in Manhattan kinda sealed the deal with the Grummans leaving NY. Whats funny is when the frames were cracking, they were pulled off the road,fixed by Grumman and repaired back in service. Green lines pulled them off and i don't know what happened to the Triboro Coach ones. Anyone know why Command and Quens Surface never ordered them?B77-#7599-Orion VII |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 4 17:41:27 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by JFK DEPOT on Wed Nov 4 13:35:26 2009. Its like they take there Road Test in Jersey or something lolha ha ha ha, No. |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Wed Nov 4 17:53:42 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 4 13:52:04 2009. lol maybe during the system pick i should go to "casey stengal"! I've been on S.I. for 8 years, I started in brooklyn at Ulmer Park, and I have worked Gleason. I was glad to get the transfer when i did, since i was starting a family, but Yukon is a lot more "political" than castleton, thats why i'll never go back there. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 4 20:36:13 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by MTA_SI on Wed Nov 4 17:53:42 2009. All politics and small peckers.Perhaps DOB is setting up camp in the borough to rein the whole division in. Man, I would love to see that. You might even get some more running time with a DOB invasion. That and proper bus maintenance is probably #1 and #2 on an SI driver's Christmas list. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 4 22:25:53 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by Pablo M 201 on Wed Nov 4 17:41:27 2009. Ouch, offended? lol |
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Posted by Mr RT on Thu Nov 5 08:02:15 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by JFK DEPOT on Wed Nov 4 14:13:28 2009. The TA did what they do every time a new piece of equip. arrives ... they tinker with it.i.e. some of the modifications the TA did messed up the Grumman's, then they ask Grumman to fix them ... it cost so much to undo what they did when the cracks appeared they dumped them because they were embarrassed. Other operators left them alone, fixed the cracks & then lasted for years there. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Thu Nov 5 12:51:21 2009, in response to Re: Manhattanville's Orions Losing..., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 4 22:25:53 2009. Not really. I know drivers out here in Jersey are animals, dealing with them on a daily basis is not fun, but yet it keeps a person on their toes. |
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