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The typical Philadelphia Strike |
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Posted by neolife07 on Tue Nov 3 05:42:31 2009 As of 3AM this morning, SEPTA City Transit Division and Frontier transit divisions are on strike! |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 3 06:22:21 2009, in response to The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by neolife07 on Tue Nov 3 05:42:31 2009. Wow...well, you can't say they didn't play ball. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 3 08:58:55 2009, in response to The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by neolife07 on Tue Nov 3 05:42:31 2009. Fire their butts and get people who would love a job. I hate unions for their greed. If true that a fair offer was turned down then replace them if it continues. Anybody can be replaced. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:22:51 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 3 08:58:55 2009. "fair" is a matter of personal opinion. so I don't see what you mean. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:31:42 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 3 06:22:21 2009. *groan* at the pun. lol :) |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:32:24 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 3 06:22:21 2009. *groan* at the pun. lol :) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 10:30:28 2009, in response to The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by neolife07 on Tue Nov 3 05:42:31 2009. Go figure---they waited until after the World Series left town. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Nov 3 10:49:19 2009, in response to The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by neolife07 on Tue Nov 3 05:42:31 2009. You all should see how Market Street in UC is at this moment - the only real way to get around right now is by foot...the LUCY shuttles are packed to the extreme and so are the Drexel and Penn shuttles... |
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Posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 3 10:55:04 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:22:51 2009. Well if it was fair to both sides and in this economy I would not push my luck. I'm sure we will get the details of what was turned down. If it was not a fair deal then I can understand what they are doing. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 3 11:03:28 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 3 08:58:55 2009. The offer was "bait" to keep them around for the World Series. That is negotiating in bad faith. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 11:27:07 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Nov 3 10:49:19 2009. Yikes. It's too bad they can't ship some artics/40 footers onto LUCY! |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Nov 3 11:29:50 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 11:27:07 2009. When I got in this morning and passed thee LUCY stop at 30th Street, the line was already around the corner at JFK Blvd....that was 6:45AM. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 3 11:32:21 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Nov 3 11:29:50 2009. The LUCY runs those El Dorardo's, the smaller bouncy bus. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 12:51:05 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 3 10:55:04 2009. if it was fair according to them, then they would have taken it. doesn't matter if it was fair according to us. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 12:51:24 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 3 11:03:28 2009. proff? |
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Posted by RiverLINE3501 on Tue Nov 3 13:11:07 2009, in response to The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by neolife07 on Tue Nov 3 05:42:31 2009. They turned this down! WTF is wrong with these Assholes?After reading reports of the proposed contract between SEPTA and the "Thug" Workers Union, I have got to conclude that the TWU is OUT OF THEIR FRAKKIN MINDS! Anyone working would take this deal and run as fast as they can with this. These assholes would have made out like bandits, and the only cost is a slight increase in their pension payments [and their pension plai is a currently going out-of-style "Defined Benefits" plan to boot!] I wonder if the "Twat" Workers Union in MTA land could get such a gold plated contract like the ones the idiots at SEPTA turned down! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 18:48:32 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by RiverLINE3501 on Tue Nov 3 13:11:07 2009. Reportedly though, wages weren't the issue, but seniority. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Tue Nov 3 19:15:24 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 12:51:05 2009. Except for the fact that we the taxpayers and fare-paying ridership will be paying for it, I would agree with that statement. However, since we will be paying for it, then I think it does matter.Look at the recent TWU 100 contract arbitration award, and tell me that it doesn't matter to us. |
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Posted by RiverLINE3501 on Tue Nov 3 21:21:02 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 18:48:32 2009. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK! At my company, when the layoffs hit, seniority meant NOT A FUCKING THING! In fact, the more senior you were, the more likely you were let go.Seniority is one of the biggest scams unions put over their members. Sometimes it is used to prevent more talented younger members from getting the better jobs and also it is abused by older employees who use it to practice "on the job retirement", especially when actual retirement is imminent. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 3 22:04:01 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 3 08:58:55 2009. Typical union busting move.. |
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Posted by Mr. Transit on Tue Nov 3 22:37:27 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 3 22:04:01 2009. To all you misguided transit enthusiasts and union members...the seniority issue involves only 80 janitors concerning picking rights...also this bogus claim by Willie Brown that SEPTA has been underfunding their pension fund is bs...does anyone know a pension plan nationwide that hasn't been the past year, since the ecomony went in the tank? I've been using SEPTA over 45 years and have been held hostage by several strikes. |
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Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike |
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Posted by NJT Oradell on Thu Nov 5 11:33:26 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by Mr. Transit on Tue Nov 3 22:37:27 2009. Septa has historically had the worst employee relations. An MTA employee would never stand for the things SEPTA management routinely tries to get away with. I thought NJT was bad, and it is, but not nearly as bad as Septa. You can't treat people like necessary evils and expect them to give you any more than they have to. Septa needs to soften their overly hard line with their employees and enter the 21st century. That's why they have so many strikes there. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Nov 5 12:24:03 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by NJT Oradell on Thu Nov 5 11:33:26 2009. I'm curious. What does SEPTA do that's so horrendous to their employees, moreso than NJT and MTA? |
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Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike |
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Posted by Ken S. on Thu Nov 5 16:33:08 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Nov 5 12:24:03 2009. Understaffs and underequips RRD trains for starters. You don't see LIRR, MN, or NJT running 2-car trains on weekends. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Thu Nov 5 17:55:07 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by Ken S. on Thu Nov 5 16:33:08 2009. I'd agree with you in part on staffing, but as far as running 2-car trains on weekends, in most cases, ridership fills only one car. Maybe weekend ridership on the R7 Trenton and R5 Paoli justifies more than two cars, but as a general rule of thumb, ridership on weekends does not justify more than two cars. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat Nov 7 11:58:03 2009, in response to Re: The typical Philadelphia Strike, posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 3 08:58:55 2009. What recession? Oh it's just everyone else who doesn't get raises, 401k's pensions or healthcare. These clowns go around making 2x what teachers make.Put some illegals to work for 9/hr. |
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