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Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009

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Dept. of Buses has asked Staten Island dispatchers to place as few as possible Orion VII NG's in service today. This is in part because of the situation last night where on the S52, S46, and S48 line over 20 buses were hit with eggs (frozen too), a gallon of paint, rocks, bricks and more. The paint job on the new buses being so new, the egg can cause damage to the paint.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 31 10:15:26 2009, in response to Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009.

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I wonder if the 2200s may also be held out of service today at Yukon and Spring Creek.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Pelham Exp on Sat Oct 31 10:19:25 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 31 10:15:26 2009.

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Put undercovers on some of the buses and let them catch the culprits..

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by B49 Limited on Sat Oct 31 10:45:59 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 31 10:15:26 2009.

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So far along my walk on Ocean Av... I have not seen a 2200 as of yet. I am surprise they have not put that out in all depots not to put out the NGs.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 31 11:02:53 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by B49 Limited on Sat Oct 31 10:45:59 2009.

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Only on SI and at MTA Bus can service reasonably be made without NGs.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 31 11:26:46 2009, in response to Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009.

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And why is that? I thought Staten Island is the "utopia" of the universe?? And that only the best and most civilized people lived there? You would think that was the case, since all of the idiots who moved there in droves after the bridge opened were looking for the "better life" that Brooklyn could not provide. :-)

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Oct 31 11:29:10 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 31 11:26:46 2009.

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The routes he mentioned all run on the North Shore of SI which is far from a utopia.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 31 11:33:59 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Oct 31 11:29:10 2009.

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Ok. My mistake.... but how come no other boroughs were mentioned? Do you mean to tell me that the north shore of Staten Island is wilder than some rough sections of Brooklyn and the Bronx?

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 31 11:40:11 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 31 11:33:59 2009.

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I would think the reference is to the area around Mariners' Harbor. However, Castleton also runs routes along South Beach and on Hylan.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by mci guy on Sat Oct 31 11:58:45 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Pelham Exp on Sat Oct 31 10:19:25 2009.

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that would be too much to ask.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by ctrabs74 on Sat Oct 31 12:02:18 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 31 11:33:59 2009.

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My guess is that Staten Island can probably make score with a majority of Orion V's as opposed to NGs the other boroughs. IIRC, the percentage of Orion Vs to NGs is higher at the Staten Island depots compared to other depots.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by mci guy on Sat Oct 31 12:04:00 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 31 11:26:46 2009.

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believe me this is far from limited to the north shore. the youth on staten island are vicious. i hated to work halloween or the night before. a lot of these youths used to live in bklyn along 18th av bay ridge pkwy etc. and none of those are so called ghettoes. police out here know this.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Oct 31 12:13:32 2009, in response to Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009.

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Silly Staten Island youth, the egg-worthy lead acid NG buses are in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Oct 31 12:58:00 2009, in response to Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009.

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Maybe they should have buses with spray cannons? :)

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Sat Oct 31 13:28:53 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 31 10:15:26 2009.

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I saw at least 1 22XX running today

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Oct 31 13:46:47 2009, in response to Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009.

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I could see today being a 100% Orion V day because Staten Island service on weekends is pretty much half of what it is on weekdays.

On a normal weekend though, you'd be hard pressed to find a O5 because they usually throw every single NG in service.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween.

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Oct 31 15:12:50 2009, in response to Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009.

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Makes sence.
27 years ago tonight my wife and I were waiting for a bus in Howard Beach. While waiting for it, 2 groups of teens were passing by chucking eggs, shaving cream and what not. Then we were between them and she refused to get out of the their line of fire. She explained: "They're Not Throwing At Us!" I reminded her about innocent bystanders getting hurt this way as I kicked a leg out from under her causing her to fall. Just as an egg whizzed by her head. A somewhat dangerious to do considering she was also 8 months pregnant at the time.

The bus came a few minutes later. A Green Line bus covered in eggs and shaving cream and OOS!

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 15:56:21 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Pelham Exp on Sat Oct 31 10:19:25 2009.

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Never mind the paint job on the bus, what about the safety of the operators?

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 16:01:37 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 31 11:26:46 2009.

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You have to realise one thing: wherever you have the affluent, you also have to have poor people so they can serve the affluent ones at retail stores, supermarkets, take out food places, and the like. Do you really think the affluent want to part with their money to make somebody else affluent?

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by caine515 on Sat Oct 31 16:03:07 2009, in response to Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009.

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don't expect NG buses to be assigned to the b31 line today either or on night runs on the B2,b41,B44 or B49 lines. This is according to the driver on the B46.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 16:13:30 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by caine515 on Sat Oct 31 16:03:07 2009.

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I'm still more concerned about the safety of our operators. You can't put a cop on every bus.

I am worried about employee injuries tonight from all job titles who deal directly with the public. Saturday nights are dangerous enough even without Halloween.

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Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween)

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sat Oct 31 16:27:33 2009, in response to Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009.

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I fully expect some neighborhoods (or even entire routes) to lose all service this evening in response to "egging" - with no sympathy from me. If people insist on endangering drivers and passengers, they deserve to lose service.

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Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween)

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 16:34:39 2009, in response to Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween), posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sat Oct 31 16:27:33 2009.

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The public don't care about the safety of transit workers. They just want their taxi ride with their MetroCard. Bus operator injured? Tough shit, just bring out another driver.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by mr_brian on Sat Oct 31 16:38:20 2009, in response to Limited "NG" Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 10:11:45 2009.

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I still saw plenty of NGs in service on Stengel and Jamaica routes while I was out driving today.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Oct 31 16:40:34 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by caine515 on Sat Oct 31 16:03:07 2009.

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Whoa, is that's going to have a big impact on all those lines? The hybrids are now a sizable portion of the fleet.

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Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween)

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Oct 31 16:42:34 2009, in response to Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween), posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 16:34:39 2009.

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It's a shame some people have that kind of mentality [the don't give a damn about the b/o's].

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Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween)

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Oct 31 16:50:41 2009, in response to Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween), posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Oct 31 16:42:34 2009.

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Simple idea, ban all sales of eggs, shaving cream and milk one week before Halloween.


Bastards really gotta do dumbassed shit, fuck them.

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Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween)

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Oct 31 16:58:31 2009, in response to Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween), posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Oct 31 16:50:41 2009.

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Nah, if the cops get them, they can throw the douchebags in prison and let the inmates 'fuck them' ;)

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Oct 31 17:02:13 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 15:56:21 2009.

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Or the safety of the customers riding it?

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Oct 31 17:19:06 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by mr_brian on Sat Oct 31 16:38:20 2009.

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Same here in BK but mostly 3900s though, only one of those 42xx buses.

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Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween)

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Oct 31 18:14:24 2009, in response to Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween), posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Oct 31 16:58:31 2009.

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For only a day or two then they usually are sent home after arraingment. NY State Penal laws are a joke if county District Attorneys and judges don't upheld stiffer sentences.

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Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween)

Posted by caine515 on Sat Oct 31 19:11:07 2009, in response to Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween), posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Oct 31 18:14:24 2009.

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the washer for the buses tonight is assigned to the starting point of the B15 and B47. This should be interesting tonight

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**Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 19:16:15 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by mr_brian on Sat Oct 31 16:38:20 2009.

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Staten Island Bus operator, while operating in service on the S40 via Goethals Rd, open the door to let off a passeneger in front of the trailer homes, and a group of teenagers hit the driver in the right eye/ ear area with frozen paintballs. Condition of operator is unknown,except she was transported to University Hospital via Ambulance.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Oct 31 19:18:56 2009, in response to **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 19:16:15 2009.

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I'm shocked that they did that to a Woman. Hope shes alright...

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sat Oct 31 19:29:49 2009, in response to **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 19:16:15 2009.

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That's it. All service to Goethals Homes should be canceled immediately. Anybody who trains their kids to assault bus drivers doesn't deserve service.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Oct 31 19:34:39 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sat Oct 31 19:29:49 2009.

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I agree! They should turn the buses at Arlington Place for the rest of the night.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Oct 31 19:42:03 2009, in response to **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 19:16:15 2009.

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What the hell is wrong with people? Why did the paintballs have to be frozen?

There's a difference between "harmless fun" and doing something to destroy and really hurt someone providing service.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by shadyelstation on Sat Oct 31 19:56:38 2009, in response to **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Oct 31 19:16:15 2009.

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Disgusting. I hope the B/O has a full recovery and the perps are found and arrested.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 20:18:50 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Oct 31 19:18:56 2009.

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Get real.

Are you saying it's OK to do it to a man and not a woman? Do you expect these thugs to check first to see what gender the operator is before letting it loose?

Earlier today I expressed the fear of an operator getting hurt. Tragically it happened and it probably wasn't even dark outside yet. Then if all the drivers pulled in over fear of their safety or all booked off sick en-masse NYCT would cite them for Taylor Law violations.

Let the blood be on union and management for not moving fast enough in getting those safety barriers to protect the operators. Now she goes on workmans compensation, some other person covers her run, and the incident becomes a statistic and all is forgotten.




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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sat Oct 31 20:19:47 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Oct 31 19:34:39 2009.

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I was thinking of removing the S40 from Goethals Homes permanently.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 20:21:25 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sat Oct 31 19:29:49 2009.

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Now what parent is going to "train" their kids to assault a bus operator? They have low life parents whose kids don't even respect them so why do you expect them to respect a bus operator/complete stranger?

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 20:22:42 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Oct 31 19:42:03 2009.

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Because they have the attitude they won't get caught and they don't have a clue that their prank could cause serious injury.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 20:29:29 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 16:13:30 2009.

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I see my worst fear was realised in post #170916.

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Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween)

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 20:31:24 2009, in response to Re: Bus Egging (Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween), posted by caine515 on Sat Oct 31 19:11:07 2009.

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Does the washer for the buses keep the operator safe when the door is opened? It didn't on the S40 did it?

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Oct 31 20:58:10 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 20:22:42 2009.

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Nor do they have a clue their prank will cause problems for themselves.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 21:07:54 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Oct 31 20:58:10 2009.

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If they don't get caught it won't cause any problems for themselves especially if they had on masks and/or face paint.

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Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Oct 31 21:09:37 2009, in response to Re: Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 20:29:29 2009.

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Just like with July 4th.
You know someone will have a firecracker go off in their hands.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Oct 31 21:11:20 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 21:07:54 2009.

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I meant problems with their peers.
Especially if they brag about it.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Oct 31 21:58:29 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Oct 31 19:42:03 2009.

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I guess they were trying to freeze the paint to make it hurt more. Normally, paintballs have a thin outer shell that breaks quickly on contact.

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Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 31 22:19:54 2009, in response to Re: **Operator Assulted** Limited ''NG'' Service on Staten Island for Haloween, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 31 20:21:25 2009.

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What parents? The father is probably in jail upstate somewhere and the mother is either busy working 3 jobs and never sees the kids, or is getting high and doesn't care.

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