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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jun 17 23:51:17 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 17 23:33:22 2009. You know now thinking back on that, I'm glad SI has got their act straitened out. The less of the need to swap buses around the better. And good for SI, now that they have their own buses now, there should be no need to swap them for other buses.But they seriously need [the DOT] to fix those roads or reroute the buses. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Jun 17 23:51:34 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jun 17 23:46:08 2009. Flatbush has to get 60 with the new batteries because IIRC they don't do well on high mileage routes. Unless they up and decide 126 randomly needs hybrids, MJQ will be getting some of those buses. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jun 17 23:56:03 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Jun 17 23:51:34 2009. As long as those 86xx RTS' remain at MJQ, I wouldn't mind. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jun 17 23:59:01 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 17 23:34:49 2009. Thankfully the order was small, I don't see how there was a need to put MCI's on every single express run. Especially some of the lower used lines where there's barely half capacity left. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:00:36 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Jun 17 23:35:19 2009. So if this is confirmed, does this mean the end of some O5's? I mean something has to go if the NG's and 8600's are going to JFK. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:02:40 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jun 17 23:46:08 2009. Um, if anything, Flatbush is trading the older NG's to Manhattan in exchange for the newer lithium ion powered hybrids. I don't think they are getting more buses. And if anything it would be to displace the 8400's [not totally sure since they are pretty old and might not last too long] or the 5000-5200, 9600's. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:03:31 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jun 17 23:56:03 2009. I know you love those buses, but you have to let it go.. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Jun 18 00:07:35 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jun 17 23:51:17 2009. I'm starting realize the DOT isn't the brightest bunch of people. They closed off Kappock during the height of rush hour yesterday afternoon to finally repave the street. Now I'm happy they did it because the street was tearing KB buses up but it caused a re-route that skipped all the stops between Johnson/Irwin and Riverdale/239. Add the re-route because of the water main break at 231(there was a mob of people at 231 & kingsbridge) and it took 70 mins to get from bedford Park to riverdale. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:13:48 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:03:31 2009. I'm not ready yet. When I'm ready, I'll let the entire world know. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:15:25 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:02:40 2009. The most logical scenario is to send the 84xx RTS to MTA Bus. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:21:28 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:13:48 2009. Well ok then, write a letter to the MTA is what I'd say. dunno how much good that's gonna do though.Like I've said, my favorite bus was 5105, but they sent that to Ulmer [ok granted it's the same borough, but I don't ride those lines often and still haven't seen this bus yet]. I was disappointed, but it wasn't the end of the world. The bus was going to be moved eventually. Given the rate at which the MTA is swapping buses around, it is a matter of time till those 8600 are going to be moved. Be happy the buses served Manhattan as long as they have. I mean they could be 'battered' like the ENY 8600s to some extent. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:27:10 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:15:25 2009. Yes, but they aren't that much older [2-3 yrs] than the 8000-8300's. Chances are most will retire where they currently are. Not to mention Flatbush has been keeping them running well. The 8000-8300's out there are just ready to die. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:35:00 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:27:10 2009. True. Can't disagree with you. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:37:50 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:21:28 2009. In my case, I rode on the 86xx RTS' to death in my later teen years. In the last four years, I've already got acustomed to riding an 86xx RTS on the M9 and M21 routes.Don't get me started on the '94 TMC's at ENY. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:40:35 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:35:00 2009. Now, had this been sooner, I'm sure the 8400's too would've been sent out with the 8000-8300's, but i guess the MTA figures they would have given MTA Bus too many of the older buses and most 8000-8300's were running on borrowed time [8130 as in my vid].The 8400's, however, have been maintained fairly well at Flatbush and given their age, they probably wouldn't last at best maybe 6mo-1 year at MTA Bus. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:41:42 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:40:35 2009. From a rider's perspective and opinion of course* |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:42:05 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:40:35 2009. From me as a rider's perspective and opinion of course* |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:47:42 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:37:50 2009. lol, i see them nearly everyday. Exterior wise, they look like crap [putting it nicely]. I haven't had many rides on them, however. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:51:37 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:40:35 2009. I see what you mean. I wonder how did the 1990 RTS lasted this long. Hell, the 1987-1988 RTS' didn't last that long. I'll have to give the maintenence workers at FLA a thimbs up for keeping their buses in such excellent condition. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:56:30 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:51:37 2009. I dunno, but as a rider i can say those 8400's ride almost as well as the 9600s and 5000-5200s. Whatever they've been doing, they have earned an A+ keeping the 8400's running so well. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 18 00:57:06 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:00:36 2009. Perhaps the 100s may be headed for the graveyard.The 8600s are at FRK. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 01:01:30 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 18 00:57:06 2009. Ah ok.So JFK is still going to be mainly all Orion then? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 18 01:02:01 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 01:01:30 2009. Unlikely; the 8400s are at JFK. The 8600s thus far are between LGA and FRK. |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Jun 18 01:06:43 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 00:51:37 2009. Probably the contributing factor of increasing life expediency is most of the 1990 RTS were repower from 6V92TA engines to Series 50 EGR because of EPA |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 18 06:33:48 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:27:10 2009. The 1990 RTS are much better than the 8400s. Like 8044, 8393 (RIP) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FLA 8400s. Not all 1990 RTS are ready to die, some of them have a lot of life in them. Some of those Queens Village 1990 TMCs still have life in them. |
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Kappock Repaved?? -- Re: Orion 7NG #4144 |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 18 07:09:30 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Jun 18 00:07:35 2009. whoa whoa whoa! they paved it!!!?!? Finally!??! What exactly were the details of the reroute?? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 18 07:24:08 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:00:36 2009. does this mean the end of some O5's?I guess that all good things must come to an end, oh well at least Bee-Line's Orion Vs will be running for at least another 10 years. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Jun 18 10:50:48 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 18 01:02:01 2009. Oh ok. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Jun 18 10:53:41 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 18 06:33:48 2009. Well I never rode as many of them and riding the q35, some of those buses have been well meh. I'll still prefer the 8400s over them. |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Thu Jun 18 12:01:35 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 00:02:40 2009. What about 126st.? I know they will get NG's eventually. But I hope they get the newest ones. If 3800-3959 are going to split between MV and MJQ, then 126St should get something too. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 12:55:22 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Thu Jun 18 12:01:35 2009. Not to familiar with Manhattan, your guess would be better than mine. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 14:54:31 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Thu Jun 18 12:01:35 2009. I think 126 is still slated to receive NG's. I'd rather have the NG's go to 126 than MJQ. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jun 18 15:07:49 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jun 18 14:54:31 2009. Well those buses at 126th are slightly younger, but I don't see them being moved to MTA bus depots. |
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Re: Kappock Repaved?? -- Re: Orion 7NG #4144 |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Jun 18 16:13:06 2009, in response to Kappock Repaved?? -- Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 18 07:09:30 2009. the B/o told everyone on the bus that the n/b side was being repaved. The reroute was Irwin to Johnson to 239/Riverdale. The Bus I was on stopped at the city steps @ 232 and 235/johnson but I saw some buses go straight to 239. People were pissed. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Thu Jun 18 19:57:19 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Jun 17 23:18:43 2009. Thanks for the info! So I'm assuming the next 40-50 are going to JFK. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Thu Jun 18 20:00:33 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Jun 17 20:08:56 2009. Hm, this got me thinking. Does CS deserve new buses? They have about 50 O5 that are retiring with the NG, and another 110 retiring within the next 1-3 years. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 18 20:15:46 2009, in response to Orion 7NG #4144, posted by futurekbarticop on Wed Jun 17 13:14:31 2009. There are four there so far: 4140-4141, 4144, and 4146. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Jun 18 20:54:26 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by R160 8818 on Thu Jun 18 19:57:19 2009. It should be 4140-4159 |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Jun 18 20:56:08 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by R160 8818 on Thu Jun 18 20:00:33 2009. they do but they have 58 OG Orion VIIs so they can wait a while before getting new buses. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 18 20:56:19 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Jun 18 20:54:26 2009. Actually, to 4169. JFK was really knocking out training today with multiple drivers on 4146 when I spotted it just north of JFK. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Jun 18 21:06:53 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 18 20:56:19 2009. These assignments are all over the places. You would think LGA would get more NGs then JFK. Next 4170+ will be going to West Farms Or QV |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 18 21:12:16 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Jun 17 23:18:43 2009. Thanks man, I guess that all of the ugly lead acid hybrids will end up in Manhattan thankfully as I never busfan in Manhattan. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Thu Jun 18 22:09:19 2009, in response to Orion 7NG #4144, posted by futurekbarticop on Wed Jun 17 13:14:31 2009. Rode 4146 on the Q60 @ 8:40 heading from Kew Gadrens this evening. There was no other NG's out in the Kew Gardens area when I was there from 7:30 to 8:30 PM. I got a video of it leaving Midtown not too long ago and I could not get a good pic when I got off @ QCM. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 18 23:36:43 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by QM18Express on Thu Jun 18 22:09:19 2009. The surprise for me is that one went out, although it appears as though all four were doing training. |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Fri Jun 19 11:59:58 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jun 17 23:02:20 2009. I Disagree every Depot deserves New Buses and MTA Bus is known to tear up equipment it's only a matter of time what i see on here is people defending their service area |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Fri Jun 19 12:00:34 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 17 23:18:09 2009. IAWTP |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Jun 20 08:28:50 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Jun 18 20:54:26 2009. 20 is insufficient just like 20 was insufficeint for LGA. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Jun 20 08:29:45 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 18 21:12:16 2009. In a few years you may have no place to bus fan. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Jun 20 08:30:55 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by R160 8818 on Thu Jun 18 20:00:33 2009. Of course they, uh the passengers of CS routes, deserve new buses. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jun 20 11:49:37 2009, in response to Re: Orion 7NG #4144, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Jun 20 08:28:50 2009. I agree, plus the garage has been trained to deal w/the NG's. Wouldn't it have made more sense to give LGA more NG's than to give the NG's to another depot [that had no experience w/them]? |
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