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MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Nov 18 08:41:55 2008 We'll find out Thursday but as well as subway service, the MTA has briefly mentioned cuts to local and express bus service.Possible bus service cuts: Buses: A few dozen bus routes eliminated overnight and weekends, including X27 and X28 weekends. Bus routes targeted for less frequent service generally are those with lower ridership numbers or where subway trains are an option. A few routes running weekdays axed. They're not being specific but it'll be interesting to see what overnight local bus routes as well as weekday express bus routes to ax. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 18 09:00:52 2008, in response to MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Nov 18 08:41:55 2008. Whoa Nellie this is gonna be fun!!!!!! :) |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by TheHat on Tue Nov 18 09:09:01 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 18 09:00:52 2008. Yep. Next stop hell, straight to hell. |
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Posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Nov 18 09:30:53 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 18 09:00:52 2008. lol Why'd I have a feeling you'd say that? Won't be fun for the bus drivers who may lose their jobs but will be fun for people who really hate some of the routes they may possibly eliminate. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 18 09:37:43 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Nov 18 09:30:53 2008. Hopefully the bus drivers' ranks will be reduced via attrition and not layoffs. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by TheHat on Tue Nov 18 10:09:57 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 18 09:37:43 2008. I doubt it unless they offer 20/50. The MTA NYCT and Bus has B/O with years of service but not the age to retire. At Yonkers our #1 man has 30 years of service but is only 53, we can't retire under our current age 62 expired contract so no one has the age to retire at Yonkers and a lot of guys at the former privates are in a similar situation. At LaGuadia & College Point the retirement age is 57. At Eastchester the #1 man up till last year was driving since 1968, but wasn't 62. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Tue Nov 18 13:34:52 2008, in response to MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Nov 18 08:41:55 2008. Sunday`s N.Y. Post had a good article (sorry, unable to link)about the MTA & it`s office bloat and how they could solve their budget problems without cutting service or raising the fare. It was part of a report by the State Comptroller`s office. I hope the powers that be at the MTA read this do what they should & leave service & the fare right where they are. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Nov 18 14:57:36 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Mr. D - Type on Tue Nov 18 13:34:52 2008. They should not have to cut anything period. When is enough enough? |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Tue Nov 18 15:18:30 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Nov 18 14:57:36 2008. On a side note Mr. Roberts is Proposing Access A Ride become an in house service this is pending a vote by the MTA full board on Thursday so this would mean something like an LI Bus Able Rideit would save money i found this article in todays NY Post |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 15:30:28 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Operator3319 on Tue Nov 18 15:18:30 2008. Why not.If they put it under MTA Bus, the losses may be reimbursable. After all, the city is balking at paying more money for it. You can cut down regular bus service and shift surplus drivers to AAR. You can even start ALL drivers in AAR and advance them through to mainline, err 30'-40'-45'-60' buses later. Best of all, you can pool all of the city subsidized operations in one house so that if the city gets funny with the money, you simply park buses. It is also an open secret that the contractors now can't find enough drivers. So, the MTA can take over the program and hire directly, self insure the buses and have non-CDL operators run them in the future at a lower pay scale. Once you get your CDL, you get bumped up. Do 500 hours at AAR and you are eligible to move up to MTA Bus and/or NYCT. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by mci guy on Tue Nov 18 16:13:37 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 15:30:28 2008. as somr here may know i retired from nyct and now work for AAR. this will be great if it happens.however a cdl is needed to drive AAR xehicles. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 18 16:58:04 2008, in response to MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Nov 18 08:41:55 2008. Even Thursday we probably won't know the exact routes to be affected, will we? In 1995, did the public know what was going to happen before the pamphlet came out with all the reduction details? |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Nov 18 17:09:04 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 18 16:58:04 2008. In 1995, did the public know what was going to happen before the pamphlet came out with all the reduction details?Anyone got the pamphlet and want to scan it? |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 17:24:16 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by mci guy on Tue Nov 18 16:13:37 2008. Right now, it is because all commuter vans and paratransit operators in NYC are under TLC and TLC mandates CDLs. However, the vehicle configuration has only 7 seats. Since the MTA is not governed by TLC, they can use non-CDL operators. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 17:25:36 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Nov 18 17:09:04 2008. It's already scanned into BusChat someplace. This bloodbath may be even worse than that. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 18 17:28:46 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 17:24:16 2008. However...the MTA would still want everyone to have CDLs, because chances are, paratransit might be on the list of jobs to pick right with regular route service.IMO, the MTA needs to create the title of LABO at NYC Transit and MTA Bus and assign persons there to start. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 18 17:34:46 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Nov 18 17:09:04 2008. This? (Copy/paste)http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=109564 |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by Metro Man on Tue Nov 18 17:50:17 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Mr. D - Type on Tue Nov 18 13:34:52 2008. http://www.nypost.com/seven/11162008/news/regionalnews/mta_office_bloat_138950.htmcheck out this link this is what you are talking about. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 17:55:19 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 18 17:28:46 2008. That's exactly my point. You would be able to start out in paratransit (earning some money) at a lower pay scale. The move up to a CDL would be incentived by a CDL pay increment. So, you would have the following bus operator tiers:Paratransit Vehicle Operator - no CDL, paratransit only Regional Bus Operator I - CDL BP, paratransit only Regional Bus Operator II - CDL BP, paratransit, extra board MTA Bus Regional Bus Operator III - CDL BP, MTA Bus Regional Bus Operator IV - CDL BP, MTA Bus, Road Supervision Trainee MTA Bus = Bus, NYCT, LIB |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 18 18:01:50 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 17:55:19 2008. BTW, the key thing would be creation of LABO, which is a part time position and something currently completely foreign to NYC Transit and MTA Bus. What would the MTA need to give to get part-time positions created within NYC (and Yonkers)? Currently, all positions are full-time. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 18 18:03:08 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 18 18:01:50 2008. For those that don't know: LABO (which exists at Long Island Bus as a part-time position) is Limited Assignment Bus Operator. IINM (those at LIB, correct me if wrong), operators start out as part-timers and then become full-timers. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 18:27:53 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 18 18:01:50 2008. 20/50...word on the street says 20/50 is practically a done deal in exchange fo part time operators and other givebacks. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by TheHat on Tue Nov 18 19:02:31 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 18 18:03:08 2008. Correct, We don't have part-timers as it is not in our expired contract, so to do that at MTABus we would have to get a contract and change the work assignments to accomidate such. |
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Posted by TheHat on Tue Nov 18 19:04:31 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 18:27:53 2008. That would allow for eliminating position by attricion. 20/50 would be like a buy out. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by Pelham R62A on Wed Nov 19 08:43:49 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 18 17:34:46 2008. Thanks. Does anyone have the actual scanned pamphlet from 1995? |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 19 09:06:46 2008, in response to MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Nov 18 08:41:55 2008. But wait, there's more!http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/11/19/2008-11-19_mtas_in_fast_lane_for_big_hike.html That's the radiation from the MTA's nuclear device. $7.50 won't happen. $7 is the maximum it would go up to for express buses. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by exgreenbusdriver on Wed Nov 19 09:30:25 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 19 09:06:46 2008. with these planned service cuts how will mta bus be affected??? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 19 11:24:18 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 17:55:19 2008. IMO, RBO I and RBO II should be combined, however. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 19 11:24:57 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by TheHat on Tue Nov 18 19:04:31 2008. How much of MTA Bus would retire? I'm guessing as much as 1/3 if years at the current garage is counted. |
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Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express) |
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Posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 12:10:49 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 19 11:24:57 2008. If 20/50 went into effect for us, though unlikely because it would require an act of legislation for pension to enter the state pension system (currently we are not state employees, but employees of a public benefit, thus not in the state pension fund)at least the top 15 B/O's, 10 Maint. would retire at Yonkers, however the top 40-50 % at Eastchester. Remember at the time of the take over the cut off at Eastchester made the least serionr man at 12 Years of service w/ the loss of BOE school bus. Eastchester B/O's have the age and years of service to retire on the 20/50 system. If they stay w/ the current age 62, $105 x years of service at Yonkers & Eastchester. College Point & LaGuardia age 57, $82.50 x Years of service you won't see as many retirements if any at all at Yonkers, few at Eastchester and the norm at CP & LGA. So it's up in the air for MTABus. MaBSTOA, NYCT w/ 20/50 will see a mass exodus of the hires in the mid-late 80's. Still the MTA would have to give MTABus a contract to start consolidation to cover retirement and eliminate service at MTABus depots. If the express fare does go up even to $6.00 Yonkes will see cataclismic decline in additional to the 33% since the MTA takeover as our routes have direct access to subways(Bxm4 & 11 the BxM1,2,3 & 18 via Bx7,9,10 & 20 W1,2 to IRT 1 Bx1,2,3,10,12 to IRT 4). Other MTABus depots have seen a steady rise in ridership across the board since the MTA takeover, even in express ridership. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Wed Nov 19 12:38:05 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 12:10:49 2008. If you read my post on an NY1 article that I found, it states that the fare would be $7.50 a ride for express routes. The only routes from Yonkers that may survive would be BXM1, BXM2, and BXM11 (If it stays there). The BXM3 and BXM18 will survive in some shape or form. I can see the BXM4A and BXM4B going bye bye as it operates right above the D Train and also there are some local routes that stops right by or within walking distance of the D train.I have a feeling that Yonkers may get some local routes to deal with the loss of express routes and I will see some extra MCI's being sent elsewhere where it might be needed. |
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Posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 12:55:00 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by QM18Express on Wed Nov 19 12:38:05 2008. That would require a contract w/ NYCT & MaBSTOA to allow consolidation as per the previous post, then and only then that would happen. Unfourtunately The MTA may take the path of least resistance and just layoff as many MTABus employees as possible w/ the elimination of the BxM3,4.and a severe reduction of weekend srvice as you know from your trip on 3305 last week. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 12:55:19 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by QM18Express on Wed Nov 19 12:38:05 2008. Not sure about local routes moving to Yonkers. There are a number of different entities involves, both legally and labor-related. |
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Posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 13:04:29 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 12:55:19 2008. If cosolidation occurs (w/ a contract) the MTA has spoke about the BxM11 moving to ECH, the Bx7,10 moving to Yonkers as a split route and reliefs at 263 St, some runs on the Bx9, as of late just rumours of MTA ideas to save costs. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Nov 19 14:27:35 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 18 17:34:46 2008. This? (Copy/paste)Thanks. I've got Linkification, by the way... |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Wed Nov 19 14:30:41 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 19 09:06:46 2008. $7.50 for express is not going to happen. In real sense, $5.50 or $6.00 would be reasonable fare increase.They might as well charge transfers right now: $.50 or a $1.00 to transfer fee from bus to bus, subway to bus (vice versa) instead of increasing the local subway and bus fare to $2.25, $2.50, or even $3.00. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 19 14:38:00 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by GOLD_12th on Wed Nov 19 14:30:41 2008. That could actually work, except that the creation of "two fare zones" again would revive the commuter van industry, which is dying. |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Wed Nov 19 15:31:30 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 19 14:38:00 2008. They are dying except in some areas, 8th Avenue Chinatown Brooklyn to Manhattan Chinatown and Flushing, Queens. They are growing a bit. |
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Posted by roscoman1986 on Wed Nov 19 15:31:37 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Nov 19 14:27:35 2008. Pardon my ignorance, but what was so bad in New York in 1995 that necessitated all of those proposed cuts? I can't think of anything today that was a problem back in 1995 off the top of my head. The economy was rapidly growing, New York was rapidly rebounding as well, fuel was not an issue, and other things. Was it some type of issue with state funding? Maybe sales tax revenues had greatly fallen for some reason or another? |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Wed Nov 19 15:32:18 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by JAzumah on Wed Nov 19 14:38:00 2008. They really would benefit from bringing AAR in house and charging By Zones it is a travesty that someone travelling from Staten Island is only paying a $2.00 fareFare Zones would be as is Zone 1 Staten Island $5.00 Zone 2 Brooklyn & Queens $4.00 Zone 3 Manhattan $2.00 Zone 4 The Bronx $4.00 Zone 5 Nassau & Westchester Counties $7.00 just a thought but it would definitely work Because if you look at it AAR Buses have Livery Plates on them and as you know there is no taxi service in this city charging $2.00 to go from Staten Island to the Bronx |
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Posted by mci guy on Wed Nov 19 16:01:15 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Operator3319 on Wed Nov 19 15:32:18 2008. and then they dont even tip us for this door to door service. |
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Posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 16:14:21 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by roscoman1986 on Wed Nov 19 15:31:37 2008. No, the MTA fell into a deficit, probably IMO because the bonds sold that purchased the R-62's and the first batch of RTS's were called in. Just IMO. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 16:18:55 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Operator3319 on Wed Nov 19 15:32:18 2008. Zone fares would never fly in NYC. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Nov 19 16:56:57 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Operator3319 on Wed Nov 19 15:32:18 2008. $7 to go to Nassau? I can take the LIRR there for $6. |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Wed Nov 19 20:05:33 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Nov 19 16:18:55 2008. For AAR Fare Zones would fly i am in no way talking about regular route Bus service |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Wed Nov 19 20:07:31 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Nov 19 16:56:57 2008. Yes because you are going out of City limits |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Nov 19 20:21:02 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Operator3319 on Wed Nov 19 20:07:31 2008. That's crazy since the railroad would be faster, more comfortable, and now cheaper. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Nov 19 20:34:14 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 13:04:29 2008. Wait why can't they currently move the BxM11 to ECH?I couldn't see KB giving up those routes even for a split without getting something major in return nor could I see them functioning as well out of YON. People at KB are still mad about condition of the buses so they'd have to get them a lot of NG's. If MTA decides to cut any of YON's routes it would probably be only the BXM4. The Bxm1/2/18 wouldn't even be thought about for a cut and the people on Sedgwick would fight tooth and nail for the BXm3 |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k8 on Wed Nov 19 20:52:19 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 12:10:49 2008. Thanksgiving and Christmas W1 and W2 do not run... BxM3 IS the only service north of 262 St, also after 12:00am as well (only 1 W2 on weekdays[the last one] is running N/B at that point).Also Metro North is not an option for many people there (especially if they are in between stations). |
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Posted by TheHat on Wed Nov 19 21:00:37 2008, in response to Re: MTA Planned Budget Cuts to Buses (Local and Express), posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Nov 19 20:34:14 2008. Seperate contracts, LLE and NYBS are two seperate entiities according to our expired contracts MTABus doesn't exsist yet so the work can't move unless employees move. That would require a contract w/ a provsion for general seniority for picking work. At this point people wouldn't matter to the MTA, the bottom line is they don't carry anyone, especailly off-peak and weekends. Ask the people on the BxM11, they lost trips that start at Pelham Parkway. Those trips picked up 30-40 people at that stop. The MTA now starts those trip from 241 and makes them wait and have less seats availible. Last pick the MTA cut 2 buses from the N/B BxM1 during the PM rush hour and lost 3189 to ECH. We at Yonkers are already slated to loose 4 runs next pick along w/ 4 buses from the depot. If there us contract for all of MTABus, MaBSTOA & LIB they will move work and they have said locals will come to Yonkers and the BxM11 WILL go to ECH. The feasability is the fact that the Bx7 & 10 is that Yonkers is only 12 min. DHD to 263 St., opposed to 26 min. DHD from the overcrowded KB. It would cost less to have runs and reliefs from Yonkers. The MTA has been kicking those ideas around along w/ the Bx9 for over a year now anticipating a single contract. So there it is from the inside. If it happens I can't say for sure, but that's what they have in mind and they will continue to cut where it is wasteful. I don't want to see it happen, because it could mean my job. I have just over 4 years there and I could be cut if the cuts are deep enough. I just state what I hear, not what by any means I want to hear. It is what it is. |
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