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orion 7 update |
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Posted by mci guy on Wed Oct 29 15:40:13 2008 it seems like theres nothing to update. highest number seen in service 3834. 3835 reported sent for battery change. supposedly 3836- 3844 are at castleton. if they are ive not seen them in service. what a slow delivery. typical of orion. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Oct 29 19:13:42 2008, in response to orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Wed Oct 29 15:40:13 2008. Yep, everything seems to have been the same for awhile.The Orion 7s are never consistently easily to be found though. On Sunday night, there were plenty of O7s but Monday and Tuesday, I only saw two or three, while today I spotted about 13 O7s. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 29 19:14:47 2008, in response to orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Wed Oct 29 15:40:13 2008. 3835 put in service today with new batteries. up to 3844 are delivered but yet to see service 3836&3838 will be out on Friday. Also next week 3813 will be going from MJQ to KB depot for training. 3837 will be at Yukon for training next week also |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mci guy on Wed Oct 29 19:18:49 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Oct 29 19:13:42 2008. yea i see them more now. only 30 or less in service at cas. saw 3813 on m16. its at quill with 3817. unknown bus suffered a crash last week. 3827 has broken pass window and was seen in training by yukon with 3810 last week. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Oct 29 19:43:18 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 29 19:14:47 2008. What is the number of the crashed bus?Also, there has been speculation that Atlantic Express will pull the AE7 when/if the MTA takes over the X23 & X24. Is the MTA planning for it? |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by q46 ltd glen oaks on Thu Oct 30 00:31:36 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 29 19:14:47 2008. What I don't get is if orion in the 3970s, how come mta doesn't even have 3870?KB getting an 07 will be interesting. It'll be impossible to find though. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Oct 30 10:50:54 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by JAzumah on Wed Oct 29 19:43:18 2008. The AE7 is not a franchised route, IIRC. AE started it as a run from the former Showplace park and ride, and moved it to the Pleasant Plains park and ride. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by railbus63 on Thu Oct 30 10:53:07 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by q46 ltd glen oaks on Thu Oct 30 00:31:36 2008. Perhaps it's related to the battery issues Toronto is having with its O7's. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Oct 30 10:54:43 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Oct 30 10:50:54 2008. That is correct, but the rumor is that AE will "dispose" of the coach business when the MTA contract are up. The AE7 loads are very ho-hum...not sure how they are doing it. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Oct 30 12:12:32 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by JAzumah on Thu Oct 30 10:54:43 2008. Their fare is higher than the MTA fare, and I believe you need to buy your ticket book in advance. They no longer have the expense of maintaining the parking facilties, as that lot belongs to the city. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Oct 30 12:48:05 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Oct 30 12:12:32 2008. They have 8 AM runs and 15 PM runs carrying about ~500 people total (250 each way). I am inclined to say that the numbers don't work unless they are lowballing their counts. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 14:39:06 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by JAzumah on Thu Oct 30 10:54:43 2008. Yes cause the MTA wants to use the pleasant plains maybe as the site for their new x21 park and ride that uses all of Arthur Kill Rd. but yes MTA did notify MTA that it will cease express bus operations in late 2009. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mci guy on Thu Oct 30 15:53:51 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 29 19:14:47 2008. its been reported elsewhere that 3839 and 3840 have been placed in service. expect some more bus moves. yukon ulmer park laguardia as castleton loses some more orion 5s. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Oct 30 16:33:59 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 14:39:06 2008. OK...the grapevine was correct. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 18:44:35 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Thu Oct 30 15:53:51 2008. 3839 and 3840 are in the depot, but are inside by the news up to 3845 which are not yet in service, i'll keep my open.also wreck bus is @ zerega then going to secaucus body shop. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mci guy on Thu Oct 30 19:11:24 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 18:44:35 2008. what pray tell bus got wrecked. so 3845 arrived. no news on mci buses sitting at atlantic diesel. i appresiate your info. also saw orion 7 on s94 but couldnt get number. |
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Posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 19:15:03 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Thu Oct 30 19:11:24 2008. YEAH THE S94 WAS 3836 running out of castleton. a couple 94 runs are covered by castleton as is a few 78's covered by yukon.bus wreck was either 3803 or 3805 not sure as bus is gone but when i looked at the sheet both are listed as not available/not onsite |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Oct 30 21:13:28 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Thu Oct 30 15:53:51 2008. Is SI still sending the Bx 6000-6030 this weekend? |
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Posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 21:34:20 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Oct 30 21:13:28 2008. A quick update I'm at depot now b4 work. UpdatesOnsite 3802, 3804, 3806-3812, 3814-1816, 3818-3826, 3828-3835, 3837-3848. 3803 & 3805 @ Zerega O.O.S. 3813 @ MJQ 3817 @ MJQ - KB Next Fri. 3827 @ Yukon 3837-3842 - In service tonite for PM runs & hawks. 3843-3848 - being prepped for service 3849-3854 - due in Sat AM. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Yukon RTS to Ulmer with next couple days. Orion V's to Yukon to compensate |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by Chipper10 on Thu Oct 30 21:41:05 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 14:39:06 2008. You meant to say that that Atantic Express did notify MTA that it will cease express bus operations in late 2009. |
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Posted by caine515 on Thu Oct 30 21:52:31 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 21:34:20 2008. It will be very interesting to see what Ulmer Park will lose. Wait..i think i know. Ulmer Park had the 8500's for a short time, then they got moved to FLA. I'm thinking this:most 9300's express coaches-moved to LGA converted to hard seats 8500's-off to FLA |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mci guy on Fri Oct 31 06:46:08 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 19:15:03 2008. thanks much. |
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Posted by mci guy on Fri Oct 31 06:51:11 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 21:34:20 2008. so the shipment has resumed. well see if 3850 on have any design changes with the newer batteries. |
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Posted by mci guy on Fri Oct 31 06:53:01 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by Chipper10 on Thu Oct 30 21:41:05 2008. thats what he meant. |
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Posted by mta_si on Fri Oct 31 10:46:41 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 21:34:20 2008. 3843-3845 in service as of today. 3848 on the fuel line ready to go as well |
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Posted by mta_si on Fri Oct 31 11:33:27 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Fri Oct 31 10:46:41 2008. 3843-3845 in service as of today. 3848 on the fuel line ready to go as well |
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Posted by mta_si on Fri Oct 31 11:34:26 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Fri Oct 31 10:46:41 2008. 3843-3845 in service as of today. 3848 on the fuel line ready to go as well |
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(3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Nov 1 02:09:44 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 21:34:20 2008. Around 11am on Friday, 3844 was pulled up and idled in Ramp D near the S78/S52 position, getting ready to go in service but I had to run for the boat and didn't see what route it ran on. |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by QM18Express on Sat Nov 1 02:21:11 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Thu Oct 30 21:34:20 2008. I did see 3841 operating on the S53 just the other night. I also saw both 3813 and 3817 yesterday. 3813 on the M34 during the PM rush and 3817 on the M16 like close to 12 AM.I see that MJQ has only been running those 2 hybrids on the M16 and M34 mainly. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Sat Nov 1 10:22:24 2008, in response to (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Nov 1 02:09:44 2008. Yeah, 3845-3846 are in service as of this morning. One problem though is 3847 will be headed to KB depot for training not sure when though but the bus has a white piece of paper marked Kingsbridge Training. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Nov 1 12:54:14 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Nov 1 10:22:24 2008. ok ill give a recap. 3802,3804,3806-3812,3814-3816,3818-3846 and 3848 for a total of 42 active 07 ng buses. 29 still to be delivered and the likelihood of 9405-9418 moving on to ulmer park very soon as 13 orion 5 go to yukon. 3800 and 3801 will stay at mississaugua/oriskany until the 850 bus shipment completed any corrections? |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mta_si on Sat Nov 1 13:16:55 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Sat Nov 1 12:54:14 2008. Just a few more additionsOnsite 3802, 3804, 3806-3812, 3814-1816, 3818-3826, 3828-3835, 3837-3851. 3803 & 3805 @ Zerega OUT OF SERVICE/ TRANS + ACCIDENT 3813 @ MJQ 3817 @ MJQ - 3827 @ Yukon - Training 3837 - 3848 - In Service 3847 - Prepped for Kingsbridge Training 3849-3851 - Waiting for final inspection for service 3852-3855 - Awaiting delivery today |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by caine515 on Sat Nov 1 14:25:12 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Sat Nov 1 12:54:14 2008. What has Ulmer Park lost now that they are recieving the 9300's from Yukon and 9405-9418 as well? |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Nov 1 16:27:49 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Nov 1 10:22:24 2008. Have any of the latest arrivals come with the new battery pack and roof cover? |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Nov 1 18:46:20 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Sat Nov 1 13:16:55 2008. 3849-3855, wow saw none today. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Nov 1 18:49:02 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by caine515 on Sat Nov 1 14:25:12 2008. several coaches in 9300-9340 series to laguardia who in turn reseat and scrap 8000. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Nov 1 18:53:04 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Nov 1 16:27:49 2008. that would be 3850 so no. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mta_si on Sat Nov 1 19:24:12 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Sat Nov 1 18:46:20 2008. If you drive past the depot going from Clove towards Jewitt, and the front door is open look to the far right right. Thats where all new deliveries are. Sometime the employee entrance door on Jewitt is open you can see them their too. They don't put them in the yard because q.c. supervisor has to go overthem, and they also don't want an incident in the yard where the wrong bus may be assigned |
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Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by Jan 6109 on Sun Nov 2 03:11:55 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by QM18Express on Sat Nov 1 02:21:11 2008. I saw 3864 at the Mississauga Daimler Factory the other day, all completed, ready for delivery. Also a few weeks back saw 3962 with lithium-ion battery pack, also finished.Jan |
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Posted by mci guy on Sun Nov 2 07:00:46 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 update, posted by Jan 6109 on Sun Nov 2 03:11:55 2008. it goes to oriskany next so it will be awhile before delivery. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by q46 ltd glen oaks on Mon Nov 3 16:28:06 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Sat Nov 1 13:16:55 2008. Could you please answer this: they're doing training at kb mjq and yuk but which depot is getting buses next and what are the numbers? |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mta_si on Sun Nov 16 16:28:23 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Sat Nov 1 12:54:14 2008. Confirmed: 3803 is bus that was wrecked. I seen it this afternoon on a flatbed truck. Right now bus is parked on elizabeth ave/ oversized facility. in jersey waiting to cross goethals bridge when it is allowed. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sun Nov 16 17:49:40 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Sun Nov 16 16:28:23 2008. Is it still wrecked? |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mta_si on Sun Nov 16 19:39:58 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by JAzumah on Sun Nov 16 17:49:40 2008. Yes! Bus is wrecked but was in the process of being repaired, I can tell by the grayish color of alot of body parts and the new doors/ and side windows. Bus is going back to Zerega once its done, there is something going on tommorow between the contractor and OSHA. I believe their is a lawsuit between crane operator and somebody? (Not TA as they are self insured) |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Mon Nov 17 19:36:25 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by mci guy on Sat Nov 1 12:54:14 2008. 3847 Is back in service, a new compressor was installed. Bus will stay in S.I. for a few days before leaving to BX. Today 6000, 6003, 6004, 6005 were sent to the bronx. Unknown Depot. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Mon Nov 17 20:44:59 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by MTA_SI on Mon Nov 17 19:36:25 2008. Cool I'll be on the lookout for those buses this week. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Nov 17 20:48:03 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by MTA_SI on Mon Nov 17 19:36:25 2008. 6000 along with 6001 were in the batch of SI O5s that I like because of their unique sound, along with seeing how they look great now and remembering what they used to look like in 2007.The O7NGs have definitely turned into a common sight for me since the last few weeks though. I've ridden them more times than I can remember at this point. |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mta_si on Tue Nov 18 10:57:22 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Nov 17 20:48:03 2008. 3849-3852 In Service this morning as well in addition more 6000's heading up to the bronx. Also KB # 571 Sent to Westfarm |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by mta_si on Tue Nov 18 18:01:01 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by MTA_SI on Mon Nov 17 19:36:25 2008. Orion V's went to Gun Hill Depot and are in service in addition is 6006.Also 3851 was in service tonite but is broke down right now as the buses turbo went out and bus can not go faster than about 20 mph |
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Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 18 18:26:28 2008, in response to Re: (3844 In Service) Re: orion 7 update, posted by mta_si on Tue Nov 18 18:01:01 2008. "Also 3851 was in service tonite but is broke down right now as the buses turbo went out and bus can not go faster than about 20 mph"LOL...who is building these buses? Fisher Price! I have an idea: run nothing but Orion VIIs on the S89. :) Trevor, did the O7 S89 you saw have an inspection sticker? I mean, we have all of these random bus failures of a new bus (heh) and um, maybe someone should look into it (heh). You know, for the passenger's safety and all (hehe). It would prevent a potential lawsuit (hehehe) if a third party made sure that they were safe (hehe). Maybe the Feds might be interested (heh), after that California incident we should be extra vigilant you know (heh) about bus safety. |
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