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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 25 23:23:31 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Oct 25 16:27:51 2008.

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Gilligs

I wonder why no one saw fit to change the subject of the thread...?

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Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 25 23:24:04 2008, in response to Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Phantom909 on Sat Oct 25 00:04:24 2008.

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hello people...

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Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses

Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Oct 25 23:25:18 2008, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 25 23:24:04 2008.

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Hello

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Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Oct 25 23:27:25 2008, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses, posted by Mac5689 on Sat Oct 25 23:25:18 2008.

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Hello

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Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 25 23:28:49 2008, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Oct 25 23:27:25 2008.

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i see the point is lost on you guys :)

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Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses

Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Oct 25 23:32:34 2008, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 25 23:28:49 2008.

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wait theres a point to that? lol

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Oct 25 23:34:05 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 25 23:23:31 2008.

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because it wasn't until today that we found out they were gilligs, and because some people are to lazy to do it.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by boliqua2 on Sun Oct 26 01:55:56 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 25 22:34:39 2008.

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Thanks

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by boliqua2 on Sun Oct 26 01:56:32 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Phantom909 on Sat Oct 25 19:01:03 2008.

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Your welcome, If it wasn't for you. I would've not have known about it.

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Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Oct 26 01:57:36 2008, in response to Re: Suffolk Transit GILLIG buses, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 25 23:24:04 2008.

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GILLIG: the only palindromic bus manufacturer. :-)

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by boliqua2 on Sun Oct 26 01:59:37 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by 9 local on Sat Oct 25 17:30:57 2008.

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Yeah , defiantly but Orion VII NG order should be interesting this coming year.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by boliqua2 on Sun Oct 26 02:00:36 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Oct 25 16:27:51 2008.

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Thank you

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by boliqua2 on Sun Oct 26 02:01:10 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Oct 25 23:23:31 2008.

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The reason I didn't change the thread title completely was that I wanted people to look at the post and get surprised.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Oct 26 20:15:51 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by boliqua2 on Sun Oct 26 01:56:32 2008.

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well the county has been saying all year that four.....make it five Hybrid/Eletric buses were comeing in November. so anyone that would have looked at the Countys Website would have known.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Oct 26 20:21:08 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by boliqua2 on Sun Oct 26 01:59:37 2008.

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well if they are the 55 bio-desiel buses Suffolk said they ordered, then they are late cuz that order went out this year as well.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Oct 26 22:21:51 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by boliqua2 on Sun Oct 26 01:59:37 2008.

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i think the 55 bio-deisel's are going to be Gillig buses since what the county said they'll be sounded alot like what Gillig said their newer buses are like. unless these are part of that order and just happen to say Hybrid/Eletric and the Orion VII are the four buses that are surpose to be coming next year????

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 27 06:36:50 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Mac5689 on Sat Oct 25 18:15:22 2008.

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5, suffolk is surppose to have four from what is on the countys website.

One for parts :)

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Mon Oct 27 20:25:52 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 27 06:36:50 2008.

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i was thinking, maybe the county ordered four and the 5th came feom that state program that someone was talking about.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Oct 27 21:41:57 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Mac5689 on Mon Oct 27 20:25:52 2008.

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Who cares, the county website probably mistyped when they type the number 4, instead of 5. You getting so insane about this.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 27 21:46:51 2008, in response to My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by boliqua2 on Sat Oct 25 16:25:55 2008.

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By the way: the website "suffolkco.com", as advertised on the buses, leads to a placeholder page. I guess it's not up yet.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Mon Oct 27 22:58:01 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Oct 27 21:41:57 2008.

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i'm not but its hard to believe that a newspaper would make the same mistake.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Mon Oct 27 23:00:49 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 27 21:46:51 2008.

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i think its the countys website but the Co is in the wong place. it probaly should be www.co.suffolk.ny.us

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by The TransitMan on Mon Oct 27 23:13:56 2008, in response to My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by boliqua2 on Sat Oct 25 16:25:55 2008.

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NIce pics Adam! Those buses look disgusting.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Oct 28 07:13:16 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Oct 27 23:13:56 2008.

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That's because mostly white schemes and Gillig BRT's don't mix.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by QM18Express on Tue Oct 28 11:16:03 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Oct 25 17:32:41 2008.

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Ah interesting! That is something different

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Two Questions about the Orion 7

Posted by Hart Bus on Wed Oct 29 14:18:50 2008, in response to My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by boliqua2 on Sat Oct 25 16:25:55 2008.

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First Question is when are they projected to go into service? None of the buses pictured have license plates on them.

Second Question is how will Suffolk County number their buses that will be received in 2010 and later.

Example: They did use the conventional 96xx, 97xx, and 99xx for the year of the model. I think 2001-2005 meant a year 2000 delivery. Then for the last two orders they flipped the year so that it became 50xx for 2005 and 80xx for the 2008 deliveries.

Will they go "Back to the Future" and use 10xx, etc?

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Re: Two Questions about the Gillig

Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 29 14:50:27 2008, in response to Two Questions about the Orion 7, posted by Hart Bus on Wed Oct 29 14:18:50 2008.

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For the record, they're Gillig Low Floor BRTs, not Orion VIIs.

If I had to guess, I'd go with "10xx" for 2010 buses.

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Re: Two Questions about the Orion 7

Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Oct 29 22:50:24 2008, in response to Two Questions about the Orion 7, posted by Hart Bus on Wed Oct 29 14:18:50 2008.

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they prob will go with 10xx, or they could go with 1xx since they haven't used that. but they will most likly go with 10xx.

2000-2005 were brought in the year 2000 and go by 20xx, so i would hopw they don't by buses in the year 2020, or hopefully the 2000 buses would be long gone by then.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Oct 29 22:51:53 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Oct 27 23:13:56 2008.

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i don't think their old scheme would work on these buses either.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Wed Oct 29 22:53:45 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Oct 25 19:22:04 2008.

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wait is that a camera between the words Hybrid and Electric?

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by lbt 9415 on Wed Oct 29 23:59:16 2008, in response to My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by boliqua2 on Sat Oct 25 16:25:55 2008.

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nice pics. Looks good with the paint scheme.
Looks like another New York agency straying away from Orion :-)

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Oct 30 00:24:06 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by lbt 9415 on Wed Oct 29 23:59:16 2008.

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Lucky them :(

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Waynejay on Thu Oct 30 01:06:23 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by lbt 9415 on Wed Oct 29 23:59:16 2008.

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Too bad NYCTA can't get away from Orion.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by QM18Express on Thu Oct 30 01:27:55 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Waynejay on Thu Oct 30 01:06:23 2008.

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Orion keeps on winning the bids for the NYCTA orders I tell ya!
We see what happens in a few years after they are done with this Orion VII NG Hybrid order.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Waynejay on Thu Oct 30 01:34:20 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by QM18Express on Thu Oct 30 01:27:55 2008.

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Sounds typical of what the TA does. In the 60s it was mainly GMC, mid/late 70s it was Flxible, 80s and part of the 90s the RTS. Now of course it's Orion. I was hoping for New Flyer, which seems to proving itself well at nearly all other major transit agencies.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 30 06:35:48 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Waynejay on Thu Oct 30 01:06:23 2008.

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Because Orion would be probably on life support if it wasn't for the MTA. The fact that the entire state isn't supporting them with a couple exceptions outside the MTA speaks volumes.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Oct 30 08:50:56 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Waynejay on Thu Oct 30 01:34:20 2008.

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I was hoping for New Flyer

Same here, this bus looks much better than crappy orion LF...


http://rogersradiointernet.com/BC/CKWX/images/2007/transit%20trolley%20bus.jpg

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Re: Two Questions about the Gillig

Posted by RTS_Book on Thu Oct 30 10:37:50 2008, in response to Re: Two Questions about the Gillig, posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 29 14:50:27 2008.

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You'd think the close-up photo of the rear license plate frame that said 'GILLIG,' mounted in a license plate surround that was embossed with an even bigger 'GILLIG,' would clarify that issue...

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Waynejay on Thu Oct 30 12:50:30 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 30 06:35:48 2008.

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Yup. Which could suggest that it's not quite the best choice.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Oct 30 12:52:03 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 30 06:35:48 2008.

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I wouldn't be so quick to discount the TTC, Muni, various North Carolina systems, and other smaller operators that order from Orion.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Scrabbleship on Thu Oct 30 19:43:36 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Oct 30 12:52:03 2008.

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The TTC is to Canada what the MTA is to the US, not just in sheer #1 fleet size but to Orion's vitality as a company. Yes, I know their customer list in Ontario is a little better in recent years than New York, but same point stands.

The MTA and TTC orders have been so large that Orion can only fit those smaller operators in, yes? Their chronic lateness might be a part of it too...

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Oct 30 20:14:21 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by lbt 9415 on Wed Oct 29 23:59:16 2008.

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Suffolk has always been Gillig. there has only been three times when there buses weren't. in 1980's when SCT first ordered their buses, in 1993 when they ordered Flex's, and 1999 when they ordered the orions.

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Re: Two Questions about the Gillig

Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Oct 30 20:19:08 2008, in response to Re: Two Questions about the Gillig, posted by RTS_Book on Thu Oct 30 10:37:50 2008.

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you'd think that wouldn't u

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Flxiblemetro on Fri Oct 31 15:54:04 2008, in response to My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by boliqua2 on Sat Oct 25 16:25:55 2008.

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Nice photos!
For thoses who don't know, thoses Gilligs are copy cats of the
Vanhool bus designs!

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Oct 31 19:30:40 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Flxiblemetro on Fri Oct 31 15:54:04 2008.

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I'd say the Gillig BRT is more a Nova LFS ripoff than a Van Hool ripoff.

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Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Oct 31 20:14:57 2008, in response to Re: My My Look what I found Exclusive was Re:Suffolk Transit Orion 7 Next Generation, posted by Scrabbleship on Fri Oct 31 19:30:40 2008.

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yeah well, almost everything in life is a ripoff of something else -lol.

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