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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 07:44:59 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Jul 23 23:38:06 2008.

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I'm not in love with it but it's not bad. Hey it's only a bus, nothing to get so worked up over.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 07:46:14 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 23 07:09:27 2008.

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You've posted your opinion so many times I think people who don't even lurk on this board know about it.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:49:14 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 07:41:19 2008.

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no, but you do

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:49:42 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 07:42:20 2008.

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nope, like i said, you are being dishonest, as usual. also seems you can't read.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:50:06 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 07:43:17 2008.

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nope, plenty of people in this thread agree with me that it is ugly.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:50:53 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 07:46:14 2008.

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that's true

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 07:57:27 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:03:57 2008.

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>>>>>Um, you get 3x as worked up when you see bus xx on route xx.<<<

Ahhhh, now, now, bus xx on route xx is not the issue here. Don't be violating your own rules.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 08:16:02 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:49:14 2008.

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Maybe, maybe not. why must you keep dwelling on the sexuality of people you don't even know.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 08:35:50 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 07:57:27 2008.

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wasn't any more irrelevant than the comment I was responding to.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Deaks on Thu Jul 24 12:13:10 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:06:27 2008.

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It clearly explains why it is ugly.

Err, I think that 'in my opinion' is missing between words four and five....

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Jul 24 12:33:43 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 23 12:49:31 2008.

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When I 1st saw it, I thought it was ugly and looked like a spaceship.
Now that I've seen the MCIs up close for Peter Pan, NJT and now the MTA, I kind of like the new design. After looking at the current MCI design since 1998, it gives the bus a totally different unique look. I can also say the same for the Orion VII. I can't stand the current "tissue box" design but I do like the NG Version.


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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Jul 24 12:37:04 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by mci guy on Wed Jul 23 15:59:06 2008.

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Try Castleton Depot. Perhaps they will arrrive there 1st?

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 12:54:53 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Deaks on Thu Jul 24 12:13:10 2008.

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But I'm not saying it is just my opinion. I am proposing that it would likely be the opinion of automotive designers/critics as well.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 13:04:47 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Jul 24 12:33:43 2008.

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After looking at the current MCI design since 1998, it gives the bus a totally different unique look.

I addressed this.

it's different to be different, instead of being different because of how good it is.

I can also say the same for the Orion VII. I can't stand the current "tissue box" design but I do like the NG Version.

!!!!!!!

The NG is even worse than this MCI!!!!!! The front end uses extremely cheap looking headlights (looks like they are from the 1980's) and combines it with an uninspired "grill". And then the rear is a HUGE asymmetric mess. And again, it's asymmetric just to be different - it doesn't look good, and it also doesn't leave room to put large bus number stickers in the upper left corner, as we've seen.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 24 14:27:41 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Jul 24 12:33:43 2008.

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True, different liveries can greatly affect the vehicles appearance.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by mci guy on Thu Jul 24 15:52:08 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Jul 24 12:37:04 2008.

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maybe i havent been there lately. im still thinking they may be at piscataway. definitely none in service.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Jul 24 16:34:00 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 13:04:47 2008.

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I agree with you completely.

These newly designed buses MTA keeps getting are just looking worse and worse. I mean no one will be able to complain about not seeing the route displayed on the rear LED but I prefer the look of the older Cruisers. Still like Classics the most though. I'd rather ride a CNG on the QM1A then this thing.

And the NG O7's look horrible to me, I like the older ones. The boxy design to me is better than whatever this new design is. IMO, I'll be happy if KB gets the old ones instead of the new buses so long as the LED is amber/orange.

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Jul 24 18:09:17 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:03:57 2008.

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Well if the buses came from/back from SI, then I care [I still doubt SI returns them back the same condition as it was b4 it was sent there]. Otherwise it's not that big a deal.
And of course I'd be interested if I see bus 5105 in service, it's the only RTS w/the Orange LED signs that I know of.
But I'm not going to go overboard about a new rear design like you did:

"fine? fine??? it's horrendous! it's different to be different, instead of being different because of how good it is. the various elements are disjointed, jarring, and incongruous. i have a feeling that if you asked any of the notable auto design critics, they would tear it to shreds.

also, the rear is way way more stylized than the rest of the bus. that's just wrong. if you're going to give it a "storm trooper" rear, then it should have a "darth vader" front and "death star" sides. Instead it has a wimpy cop-out front and 10 year old sides. "


All I'm saying is there's no need to go overboard over something so ... trivial?

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Jul 24 18:10:02 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 24 07:03:57 2008.

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Well if the buses came from/back from SI, then I care [I still doubt SI returns them back the same condition as it was b4 it was sent there]. Otherwise it's not that big a deal.
And of course I'd be interested if I see bus 5105 in service, it's the only RTS w/the Orange LED signs that I know of.* [for NYCT]
But I'm not going to go overboard about a new rear design like you did:

"fine? fine??? it's horrendous! it's different to be different, instead of being different because of how good it is. the various elements are disjointed, jarring, and incongruous. i have a feeling that if you asked any of the notable auto design critics, they would tear it to shreds.

also, the rear is way way more stylized than the rest of the bus. that's just wrong. if you're going to give it a "storm trooper" rear, then it should have a "darth vader" front and "death star" sides. Instead it has a wimpy cop-out front and 10 year old sides. "


All I'm saying is there's no need to go overboard over something so ... trivial?

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Re: PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT

Posted by dt138 on Thu Jul 24 22:03:18 2008, in response to PHOTOS & VIDEO: TTMG EXCLUSIVE ... First Look @ New NYMTA MCI D4500CT, posted by rionOne on Mon Jul 21 20:05:42 2008.

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nice vodeo Thanks big Fan

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