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Posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 1 20:14:05 2008 per nyct forums 4 orion 7 buses seen crossing vz. theres a rumor buses are being swapped between laguardia and either yukon or castleton. |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Wed Jul 2 01:57:36 2008, in response to orion 7 to si, posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 1 20:14:05 2008. Good riddance I hope they stay in S.I. Did you happen to get the bus #s? |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Jul 2 11:02:39 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Wed Jul 2 01:57:36 2008. I think the Orion VII HEVs from MTAB are being borrowed for training purposes. They will go back to their respected depots in due time. R36, you have got to learn to accept them at 1 point in time or another. What are you going to do when the entire NYCT fleet becomes all Hybrid? LGA will NEVER have an all RTS Fleet ever again for their local lines, if that's what you are thinking. 850 more HEVs are on the way. 745 for NYCT, 105 for MTAB. The only difference is their appearance. After seeing 3800 at the Roadeo a few weeks back, I, personally favor the Orion VII NG and can't wait to see them in service. Although I'm not a avid fan of the boxy design currently in service, I am learning to accept them. I do photograph them quite often.   Enjoy those 1990-1991 TMC RTSs at LGA while you still can. They are on borrowed time, IMO. |
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Posted by fishbowls4ever on Wed Jul 2 12:07:04 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Jul 2 11:02:39 2008. Cant wait till i get my cutting torches on this orion crap |
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Posted by BedStuyGuy on Wed Jul 2 12:40:29 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by fishbowls4ever on Wed Jul 2 12:07:04 2008. Well that won't be untill 2018 at the earliest and 2028 for the new ones! |
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Posted by fishbowls4ever on Wed Jul 2 12:53:44 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by BedStuyGuy on Wed Jul 2 12:40:29 2008. fine i got time thats all i got.................... |
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Posted by mci guy on Wed Jul 2 15:47:51 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by fishbowls4ever on Wed Jul 2 12:53:44 2008. youll wait a long time before that 3800 series goes in service. orion still working on modifications. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed Jul 2 17:14:26 2008, in response to orion 7 to si, posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 1 20:14:05 2008. Damn, MTA Bus getting hte short end of the stick again... I wished it were the QV hybrids.. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Jul 3 01:09:12 2008, in response to orion 7 to si, posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 1 20:14:05 2008. those 4 onion VII were going to NJ via Staten Island for warranty work on the engines, they are not running service in SI |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Jul 3 01:22:24 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Jul 3 01:09:12 2008. :whew: |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 3 10:18:50 2008, in response to orion 7 to si, posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 1 20:14:05 2008. Hybrids do not belong on Staten Island. |
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Posted by mci guy on Thu Jul 3 16:17:19 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 3 10:18:50 2008. why not. we have old people here and someone should file suit against nyct for this being the only boro without low floor buses. |
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Posted by BedStuyGuy on Thu Jul 3 16:29:42 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by mci guy on Thu Jul 3 16:17:19 2008. SI streets are murder on the O7. That's why the O7 NG was redesigned for MTA. They will be able to run in Staten Island when they enter service. CAS is supposed to get 3800-3839, and Yukon 3840-3879. But like many other things with MTA, this is subject to change, though it will likely remain the same. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 3 17:46:48 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by BedStuyGuy on Thu Jul 3 16:29:42 2008. I thought both depots were supposed to get 400, a complete new fleet with the current beese either scrapped or transfered. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 3 18:32:55 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 3 10:18:50 2008. YOU don't belong on Staten Island.... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 3 18:34:34 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 3 17:46:48 2008. I hope You mean 400 to share...You couldn't fit 400 buses at the North Shore...but you might be able to do it at the other. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 3 18:45:03 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 3 18:34:34 2008. Castelton + Yukon = 400 new beese for the island. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 3 18:47:17 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 3 18:45:03 2008. Ahhh..just as I figured.My bad,brother..just wanted to clear that up..regardless how ridiculous it might have seemed. Thanks! |
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Posted by CurAke79 on Thu Jul 3 19:15:04 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 3 10:18:50 2008. They don't belong on the streets of New York period, not just Staten Island. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Jul 3 22:28:44 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 3 10:18:50 2008. Who told you that lie? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 23:02:13 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 3 10:18:50 2008. Say WHAT? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 3 23:29:09 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by CurAke79 on Thu Jul 3 19:15:04 2008. Get over it. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Fri Jul 4 00:37:09 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Jul 3 22:28:44 2008. The older ones don't belong (the whole bottoming out thing), but the new ones do. What I don't get is why MTA said they had Orion redesign the rear so the buses wouldn't have problem in the BX, BK and SI. But the last time I checked the current hybrids's haven't really ran in the Bronx and they don't have problems in BK. SI was the only problem.SI maybe getting 400 buses but there's no way MTA is going to send the 1st 400 straight to SI. It's more realistic that the 1st 80 go there then later on another 80 and so on until the island has 400. The real question is when the new hybrids will start coming. |
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Posted by BedStuyGuy on Fri Jul 4 01:14:53 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Fri Jul 4 00:37:09 2008. Hybrids aren't in the Bronx, but the Orion VII CNG is, and it's the same bus with a different propusion system. I don't think SI is getting 400 of the hybrids. But if they do......... I guess. |
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Posted by The Rail King on Fri Jul 4 03:59:19 2008, in response to orion 7 to si, posted by mci guy on Tue Jul 1 20:14:05 2008. I heard a nice rumor from the Creek that we may lose our Hybrids in favor of ENY 88/89xx series RTS's @ years end. I'm down with that! If that's the case, then goodbye electronic tissue boxes! But like with all rumors I'll believe it when I see it! |
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Posted by mci guy on Fri Jul 4 06:11:00 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by BedStuyGuy on Thu Jul 3 16:29:42 2008. thanks for the info bed stuy guy. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jul 4 12:48:36 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by CurAke79 on Thu Jul 3 19:15:04 2008. Why?You dont like the superior reliability, superior accessability, and superior fuel economy? |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Jul 4 12:54:27 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 4 12:48:36 2008. superior reliability? I thought the 6XXX series hybrids break down the most? More than any other bus in the fleet? |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Jul 4 12:59:29 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Jul 4 12:54:27 2008. The hybrids are the most reliable local buses in the fleet.The older Articulateds and Orion 5s have generally held the honor of being the least reliable. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 4 16:14:07 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 4 12:59:29 2008. Or, they may hold stock certificates in New Flyer that they're not disclosing. |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Jul 4 19:16:29 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by The Rail King on Fri Jul 4 03:59:19 2008. I heard that LGA is supposed to add more service to the Q-45 extension yea thats a joke, Atlas mall. And add extra runs on the Q-49 that line is to short & more runs on the Q-53!!!! 1 prob THERES NO MORE ROOM AT LGA!!! This will happen in the fall. Rail King I hope that rumor is true. 8800/8900s hell yea!!!!! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 4 20:00:00 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Jul 4 19:16:29 2008. The Q53 could be split with Far Rockaway (which does have room) if need be...just add jobs to FR without subtracting jobs from LGA. |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Jul 4 21:31:38 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 4 20:00:00 2008. i only see runs split between Far Roclaway and JFK. But i have not seen runs split between JFK and LGA depots. |
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Posted by 3440 on Fri Jul 4 23:40:23 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by The Rail King on Fri Jul 4 03:59:19 2008. That will be the day!BJC |
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Posted by The Rail King on Sat Jul 5 01:49:32 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Jul 4 19:16:29 2008. Like I said I believe it when I see it. It would be nice to have them. Our guys would tune them buses up real good and get them running the way their suppose to. But the dude in the shop that told me this, so he's joker. But on the other side of that coin we're all one now so anything is possible from this point on. BTW 8511 was @ the garage on Thursday for some reason or other. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Jul 5 13:55:21 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by BedStuyGuy on Thu Jul 3 16:29:42 2008. The streets on Staten Island are no better or worse than the streets of any other borough. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Jul 5 13:55:45 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 3 10:18:50 2008. Why? |
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Posted by BedStuyGuy on Sat Jul 5 18:45:34 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 4 12:48:36 2008. I beg to differ on this one. The Queens 6400's, a few Manhattan 6400's and some MTA Bus (mainly LGA) Hybrids break down often because the maintenance obviously is not that fine tuned. Other than that, I would say they are the most reliable from an overall standpoint, but if you want to get technical, the RTS is more reliable simply because they outnumber hybrids 4:1. Brooklyn Hybrids have the best reliability rate in the city, with Manhattan right on their heels. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jul 5 23:28:07 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Jul 5 13:55:21 2008. Not true at all, ride the S59 or S78 west of Eltingville or the S40 on Richmond Terrace. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Jul 6 12:27:39 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jul 5 23:28:07 2008. I've driven through both of those areas, and while the streets are terrible, they're no worse than what I've encountered in the other boroughs. |
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Posted by FutureKBarticOP on Sun Jul 6 16:08:44 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Fri Jul 4 12:54:27 2008. The 6400's are a B/O's nightmare at QV. You wont even see them on the road often. 6486 and 6464 went thru an extensive rehab so they might be different. I now work on 5th Ave I always see hybrids from AMS and MHV broken down. 639* i forget the last digit looked like it had been in a fire the last day I worked which was thursday. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jul 7 13:29:13 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by FutureKBarticOP on Sun Jul 6 16:08:44 2008. I wonder where they break down, because I've never seen it. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 8 03:39:55 2008, in response to Re: orion 7 to si, posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 3 10:18:50 2008. Why not? I thought you hated them and would love to see them leave say Queens and/or Manhattan? |
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