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Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:17:22 2008

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I didn't anticipate it happening, and so for those who I told it wouldn't be running today...I apologize.

Now, without further adieu, here are the pics (the bus is the same one that ran when it was shown off at the Hard Rock Cafe; DD014):





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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 3 20:47:10 2008, in response to Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:17:22 2008.

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Got to be real careful driving on of those things...the "lean" on them is firce.

Sorry..but I'll stick to what I'm use to...

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 3 20:47:35 2008, in response to Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:17:22 2008.

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Got to be real careful driving on of those things...the "lean" on them is firce.

Sorry..but I'll stick to what I'm use to...

Nice catch,by the way....

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:59:43 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 3 20:47:35 2008.

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Don't worry...Coach USA had modifications done to lower the center of gravity to combat that.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 22:17:50 2008, in response to Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:17:22 2008.

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cool

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Flxible870b on Thu Jul 3 22:24:21 2008, in response to Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:17:22 2008.

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I give Coach USA till the end of summer till one of those buses gets the whole 2nd floor torn off by a bridge with low clearance!

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:30:44 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:59:43 2008.

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Actually I drove one (DD010) from Paramus NJ to Pittsburgh and it handled quite well. Just like a normal coach. These coaches where designed to European standards. Like it will lean 28 degrees before even thinking about rolling over. its a errie feeling having a coach lean that far and not roll over.

Here is the skidpad test of DD001. and it is actually 001. I confirmed with some managers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS7YZgHCUOc

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:32:54 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Flxible870b on Thu Jul 3 22:24:21 2008.

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actually its never (well I won't say never) but they (as in Coach) worked with some GPS providers in a technology that alerts the driver when they come into a geo-zone of a low clearence. They have used this same technology in Chicago for a year now and have not had a problem and Chicago is the city of low clearences

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:33:47 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:32:54 2008.

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IINM, this bus was taken from the Chicago fleet.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:34:56 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:30:44 2008.

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Coach USA previously had DD001-DD017, right? (I ask because I suspect that DD014 was transferred from Chicago and may not be going back.)

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:35:10 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:33:47 2008.

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yup and will more then likely be returned eventually

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:35:14 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:34:56 2008.

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That should read: Coach USA Keeshin.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:37:16 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:34:56 2008.

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err yes there is no 13 (unlucky number) the VINs run from 43001 through 43018 I believe. I can get a exact answer monday morning. when I get to work

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:39:26 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Flxible870b on Thu Jul 3 22:24:21 2008.

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The buses were already tested on the routes on which they will be run...all clear.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:40:26 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:37:16 2008.

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I never imagined that Coach USA would believe in superstition...LOL!

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:41:40 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:30:44 2008.

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The same video you posted, but embedded.



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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:42:50 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:40:26 2008.

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yeah it happened at my location. We skipped over 45313. Asked the maintenance manager why he said "think about it, its the number 13." Also one thing I did forget to say is that DD018 actually has the VIN number ??013 so go figure.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:43:13 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:41:40 2008.

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thanks

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:44:48 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:39:26 2008.

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yup and you might already know this but the routes they will be on will be operated by Coach USA and not Martz, Dattco, Philadelphia Trolly Works, or Academy. I know I wouldn't buy a 600K+ coach and lease it out to another company.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:45:38 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:42:50 2008.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the only buses Coach USA has with the number 13 these days are buses where they didn't choose the numbers (i.e., in Coach USA Northeast Division, there is likely a 70413---owned by Orange County, an 8513, and an 8913 (both owned by New Jersey Transit).)

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 22:48:19 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:41:40 2008.

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that's AWESOME. that's one of the few things that don't suck about buses.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:51:02 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:45:38 2008.

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You maybe correct. I can look Monday morning..haha not that it really matters. but it is nice to see the DD running in NYC and btw you got an amazing shot of the DD in front of a DC Trails 2008 VanHool C2045 showing off the height difference. btw the TD925 is built on the same chassis as the C2045 with some minor modifications

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:57:49 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:44:48 2008.

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Academy couldn't operate it if it wanted...the buses can't fit in the Port Authority Bus Terminal. (What I expect is that what eventually is assigned to Megabus Northeast LLC will be for the M21 only and not the M24 or the weekday runs on the M23 done by Megabus Northeast LLC.)

DATTCO couldn't run them either---a J4500 barely fits in South Station. As for Martz-Gold Line, they may not be long for their portion of the M21 route.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 22:59:22 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:51:02 2008.

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But the TD is low floor and C2045 is high floor. Seems like that in itself would involve some significant mods/differences.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 23:00:33 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:57:49 2008.

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True. I don't know what companies are running which routes.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 23:01:19 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 22:59:22 2008.

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The platform on which both models are built, however, may be the same...but I'm not sure.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 23:01:41 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 22:59:22 2008.

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yes you are correct. It uses some of the same chassis jigs.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 23:02:18 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 23:01:19 2008.

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thats what I ment. the platform is the same not the chassis...my bad sorry

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 23:14:05 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 23:01:41 2008.

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ok, thanks.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 23:14:32 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 23:00:33 2008.

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Here is a breakdown as it is now:

M21: Martz Trailways-Gold Line and Megabus Northeast LLC (Olympia Trails)
M22: DATTCO
M23: Philadelphia Trolley Works and Olympia Trails (Olympia on weekdays only)
M24: Olympia Trails (Penn Station), ShortLine (PABT---uses regular Coach USA buses) (both switch to Trentway-Wagar drivers in Buffalo)
M25: Academy (does NOT use Megabus-branded buses).

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Pablo M 201 on Thu Jul 3 23:28:48 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:41:40 2008.

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WHAT?!?!?!

Now thats bus driving!

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Forest Glen on Thu Jul 3 23:37:51 2008, in response to Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:17:22 2008.

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Excellent!

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 4 00:00:08 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Pablo M 201 on Thu Jul 3 23:28:48 2008.

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yep, that's what I'm talking about.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jul 4 02:06:00 2008, in response to Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:17:22 2008.

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Wow...to ride to Washington in the top-front seat of that!

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 4 02:34:57 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 22:41:40 2008.

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Hey..!

The driver looks like "JACK KIRBY".....!

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 4 06:49:52 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jul 4 02:06:00 2008.

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16 buses just like that are already in service from the Chicago hub to destinations in the Midwest. (It is actually 17 that were for the hub, but this bus is the 17th).

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 4 10:45:19 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jul 4 02:06:00 2008.

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yeah, that would be worth the $1 plus $0.50 booking fee.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Deaks on Fri Jul 4 11:29:05 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 3 20:47:35 2008.

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The 'lean' on a double-decker is not fierce. The only time you would be aware of it is when there's a full load of passengers upstairs, the reason for this being that all the heavy stuff (i.e. engine and such) is at the bottom. It is quite normal to corner in one at the same rate you would in a normal bus. As someone else has pointed out, there are stringent roll-over tests for double-deckers before they are certified for use in Britain (at least).

There is a famous picture of a London Routemaster on London Transport's tilt-tester where the bus is almost at the 10 o'clock position and supported by nothing.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 4 11:37:08 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Deaks on Fri Jul 4 11:29:05 2008.

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Exactly...it's all in the center of gravity.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Jul 4 12:03:19 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Flxible870b on Thu Jul 3 22:24:21 2008.

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Or a tunnel.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 4 13:14:05 2008, in response to Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:17:22 2008.

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An update: The front picture is now available under a Creative Commmons Attribution free use license.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 4 13:16:32 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Jul 4 12:03:19 2008.

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This bus traveled via the Lincoln Tunnel...with NO PROBLEMS!

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Jul 4 15:03:29 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jul 3 22:30:44 2008.

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That's how you drive a bus!

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by (5) Bronx Exp on Fri Jul 4 17:11:17 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Jul 4 15:03:29 2008.

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That's how you drive a bus!

Hell yeah! If there were people in that, they would have shytted there pants.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 4 17:52:24 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by (5) Bronx Exp on Fri Jul 4 17:11:17 2008.

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No, they would be screaming with delight. Kind of like I used to on a certain bus in a certain state to the west.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Jul 5 00:14:22 2008, in response to Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jul 3 20:17:22 2008.

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Look closely -- the people riding in the top seats have placed water bottles and other beverages on the "dashboard". It looks like they're enjoying their ride.

I should have the chance to try this service sometime in the next few weeks, hopefully.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 5 01:11:20 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Jul 5 00:14:22 2008.

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However...it will be a crapshoot in terms of when DD014 will run next.

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Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 5 20:51:33 2008, in response to Re: Caught me completely by surprise today: Double deckers in service for Megabus (2 pics), posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 4 02:34:57 2008.

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But it just shows how safe these double deckers can be...contrary to what some people think.

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