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Re: More W20 Service Added to Accommodate New Bus Riders Headed for Yonkers Raceway

Posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Thu Mar 1 03:18:29 2007, in response to Re: More W20 Service Added to Accommodate New Bus Riders Headed for Yonkers Raceway, posted by Future Motorman on Thu Mar 1 01:35:32 2007.

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By Bee Line being like NYCT with Metro Card I meant that when NYCT got Metro Card gold in 1997 bus ridership increased. Some people who normally wouldn't use the bus(double fare zones bus/subway) and walked would begin using the bus to the subway. This could happen on Boston Road (where some people don't currently use Bee Line to the subway, because of the double fare). I didn't mean that Bee Line would be come a part of the MTA (although MTA is controlling their fare collection though).

The people waiting in New Rochelle, Pelham etc, do not need to wait longer for a 60 bus, that is picking up and dropping off along Pelham P'way/Fordham Rd.

You think I meant that 60, 61 and 62 would be open door along Fordham Road? That is not what I meant.

I was assuming that the people would be riding from the last open door stop near Pelham Parkway on Boston Road going drop off only to Fordham westbound (with a much quicker ride since no one else would be getting on), but this is less likely since the bus stops(12/12 LTD, 22, 60/61/62) near Pelham Parkway are in separate areas and may not matter anyway.

Eastbound going to Boston Road I'm assuming people would be riding to the first open door stop (pick up only along Fordham Road, NOT open door) and other places where they could make bus connections(like Bx31) if the 60 showed up (which could also be done with Bx12).

What can WDOT do to stop this? Cut Bronx bus service? Demand more funding from NYCDOT for using existing service?

The open door policy on Boston Road (and not Fordham Road) can be used to go "Crosstown" or to connect to other buses(like the Bx25/Bx26/Bx38/Bx30). This will count as an increase in "Boston Road" passengers to WDOT though.

Those people(Pelham, New Rochelle, etc) will be waiting longer for a 60/61 bus due to more people boarding on Boston Road (both directions) and Fordham Road(Eastbound only).

WDOT will get their funding due to the increased dips on the existing service(assuming the funding agreement between MTA and WDOT is the same as the funding agreement between MTA, NYCDOT and the private bus lanes(NYBS, LLE, QS, etc).

Maybe WDOT should place a sign on the inside of the 60/61/62 buses stating the closed door policy on Fordham Road.


The Bx16 has a stop at the border, that is still technically NYC

The Bus stop is on Sandford Boulevard (West 6th Street) and South 11th Avenue, Mount Vernon. Go and check, the street signs also say Sandford and S 11th. The other side of the border is NYC.

Mundy Lane (Street in which Bx16 runs on) is the border. This also means the 54 "Mount Vernon Local" also runs in the Bronx for a bit as well, stopping at Nereid Avenue (East 238th Street)/West 5th Street and East 241st Street/West 4th Street. In Mount Vernon on one side, in the Bronx on the other






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