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Re: No New MTA Queens Bus Map

Posted by BusMgr on Mon Jul 7 16:53:09 2025, in response to Re: No New MTA Queens Bus Map, posted by Allen45 on Mon Jul 7 16:10:59 2025.

The plan that got the furthest was a revision to route B103, so as to provide service to and from Gateway Center Mall. The route had already been extended informally during peak periods along Flatlands Avenue as far as Fountain Avenue (not formally because NYC DOT refused to allow service improvements), and it was a simple matter to loop buses around the mall. Most of the cost of service is driver wages, and the loop around the mall would have been minimal to make the operating cost negligible (net cost was actually in the black because of the additional fare revenue that would be generated). It got as far as the company getting the necessary support from the Brooklyn borough president's office, but it could not get NYC DOT approval. At the time NYC DOT was on a mission to make privately-operated bus service as bad as possible so that it could "prove" that MTA did better.

Other plans were on the drawing board but could not be pursued because it would have been futile with NYC DOT in control. For example, the Q112 would have been re-extended westward from Cross Bay Boulevard to Cityline, Q113 service along Rockaway Boulevard and Nassau Expressway. Route Q22A to Bayswater would have been resumed. Better service to Beach 222nd Street (Breezy Point) on Q22 beyond the one-round operated on school days only. Better service on both Beach Channel Drive and Rockaway Beach Boulevard-Edgemere Avenue as Arverne and surrounding areas developed (not quite a resumption of Q21A service but similar). Reconfiguration of Q9, Q10, and Q37 in South Ozone Park. Separation of Q11 and Q41 service into Howard Beach, Hamilton Beach, and Lindenwood into dedicated service to and from Liberty Avenue. Added stops on Q53 at 165th Avenue and Liberty Avenue, to improve connectivity with other bus and subway routes, but otherwise keeping the express service to Elmhurst, Jackson Heights, and Woodside. Restructuring of Q47, Q45, Q18, and possibly Q67, to create a strong north-south route along 69th Street corridor between the airport and Metropolitan Avenue. Extension of Q23 and Q72 into the airport. With new BQE service into the airport, rerouting of Q33 along Ditmars Boulevard to 31st Street, with both Q19A and Q33 terminating on 31st Street at the subway station. All subject to public comment, of course. But no single master plan . . . most everything was thought to be best implemented incrementally, not all at once.

Once the routes were transferred to MTABC, it was MTABC that was able to implement some of the changes that the private companies had planned, as well as other changes or versions thereof.

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