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Re: History of Q18 Thirtieth Avenue

Posted by X-Astorian on Thu Dec 2 18:21:07 2021, in response to Re: History of Q18 Thirtieth Avenue, posted by Snilcher on Thu Dec 2 11:00:21 2021.

Well, there were few minor changes over the years. The original western terminal of the Woodside-Astoria Transportation Co. Grand Avenue bus (later Triboro Q18) was the 92nd Street Ferry slip at the foot of Astoria Blvd along with another W-A route which went up 21st Street to Ditmars Blvd and then east (Q19A); Steinway Lines streetcars on the Broadway, Flushing Avenue (Astoria Blvd), Vernon Blvd and 31st Street routes also terminated there. This continued even after ferry service ended in July 1936 with the opening of the Triborough Bridge.

Sometime after the Astoria Houses were constructed between 1949 and 1951, Astoria Blvd ceased being a through street and buses of the Q18, Q102 and Q103 turned at what was known as the 4th Street loop. The December 1988 Queens bus map showed the Q18 running on 30th Avenue to 8th Street, north to 27th Avenue east to 12th Street and return to 30th Avenue. This loop continued until a new terminal was set at 27th Avenue and 2nd Street (first shown on my March 2004 Queens map).

To me a more significant change was routing the buses off of 47th Street between 30th Avenue and Broadway and onto Hobart Street (later also 51st after the Woodside Houses were built in 1949 and eliminated Hobart Street below 31st Avenue) eastbound (54th to Hobart Street westbound). This probably occurred in the late 1930s or very early 1940s because the 1942 Queens red book street guide shows the current routing.


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