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Re: Q66 Bus Stops Discontinued Every 4 Blocks Or So.

Posted by BusMgr on Sat Sep 11 18:41:31 2021, in response to Re: Q66 Bus Stops Discontinued Every 4 Blocks Or So., posted by Snilcher on Sat Sep 11 18:10:51 2021.

The essence of the prior poster's proposal does not require it to go to Rikers Island, and a terminus at Hazen Street and 19th or 20th Avenues would be sufficient. In a broader perspective, however, I don't see much need for a north-south route through what is largely fairly dead industrial and cemetery space. The Q39 and Q67 wind around this area without much activity, and I don't think that there is much demand either between the suggested end points (i.e., Wyckoff Heights Hospital and Steinway). A better location for good north-south through service is along the 69th Street corridor, connecting Middle Village (Metropolitan Avenue station) with Jackson Heights, using pieces of the former Q45 (now Q47), Q18, and Q67, possibly incorporating the northern end of the Q47 route to the Marine Air Terminal (or Q33 or Q69), and/or possibly continuing to Fresh Pond Road and Ridgewood. Lots of residential and commercial areas with similar characteristics, and a paucity of reasonable transit options. The only other similar type service is the Q23, which reaches from the periphery of LaGuardia Airport to the Glendale-Forest Hills border via the 108th Street corridor, and it does fairly well in carrying both local and through passenger traffic (even with the substantial turnover at Queens Boulevard).

More generally, the above is the type of planning thought (i.e., tweaks) that MTABC and NYCTA should be engaging in their Queens bus route network re-design. That, not to throw out 150 years worth of transit history and investment built upon reliance on that history, but to give critical thought to the existing system. To expand on changes to the borough and existing system flaws, thereby adjusting the system incrementally. Large scale abandonment, as the public transit agencies have been approaching the matter, will, on the whole, cause more chaos and harm than benefit, especially when it is being planned by young persons without substantial institutional memory, history, or understanding of the communities involved. In other words, MTABC and NYCTA should not bite off more than they can chew.


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