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Re: Queens Bus Redesign Draft Proposals

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 13 08:54:21 2020, in response to Re: Queens Bus Redesign Draft Proposals, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jan 11 14:29:06 2020.

While never having resided in the Rockaways, I'm very familiar with the Q53. I've done Q35 to Q53 countless times to get to Central Queens from Southern Brooklyn, both under the old and new Q53 styles, so I know what it's like to get on the northbound Q53 already tired from another bus.

When Triboro operated the route, it was run at much lower frequency than today, and I'd suggest the lack of farebox activity during the nonstop portion of the route played into that a lot. The 6:40a.m. weekday run out of Rockaway Park sometimes already had standees leaving that terminal, and often with people (students often) who live further along the run but backtracked to B 116 to increase chances both of boarding and getting a seat. This run often bypassed potential riders before even reaching Broad Channel.

A lot was riding on having the bus full practically every time it left northbound from Broad Channel (and southbound from Rego Park).

Running it at current frequencies without any turnover along Cross Bay / Woodhaven Blvds would be a giant money drain, so this is what we have.

But to keep it objective, I guess the best questions are:
1) What would be the lowest acceptable frequency if a nonstop-like route was reinstalled? (E.g. Is hourly ok? Or 90 minutes?
2) How full need those nonstop runs be in order that they can be considered justified?

I'd say the answers to those questions are constantly changing based on the route's administration and people's need to travel in general.


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