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Re: Original MaBSTOA Route Assignments Help

Posted by W.B. on Wed Jan 3 17:20:25 2018, in response to Original MaBSTOA Route Assignments Help, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jul 22 01:12:53 2009.

Now, what I'm about to put out isn't original either, but it may have something to do with which was assigned where in MaBSTOA's early years. In about late 1963, front rollsigns for vintage Old Look buses were drawn up and the order of routes (Manhattan, of course) may well have been by depot. The descriptions are as on that rollsign:

3 - FIFTH AVENUE (?!)
15 - JACKSON H'GTS - QUEENSBORO B'DG
15 - FIFTH AVE - QUEENSBORO BDG
16 - ELMHURST X'TOWN - 82-BAXTER-B'WAY
15 - LIMITED STOPS
6 - BROADWAY - AVE OF AMERICAS
6 - 72nd ST CROSSTOWN
11 - AMSTERDAM & 9th AVES
12 - SPRING & DELANCEY STS
13 - 8th ST. CROSSTOWN
14 - 14th ST. XTOWN VIA AVE. A
14 - 14th ST. XTOWN VIA AVE. D
17 - 79th ST. CROSSTOWN
18 - 86th ST. CROSSTOWN
19 - 96th ST. CROSSTOWN
20 - 116th ST XTOWN
TRI-BORO BRIDGE
101 - 3rd-LEX - AMSTERDAM
107 - 106th ST. XTOWN VIA-110 ST.-5th AVE
NO PASSENGERS
15 - 23rd ST CROSSTOWN
16 - 34th ST CROSSTOWN
20 - 57th ST CROSSTOWN
21 - HOUSTON ST & AVE. C
103 - 59th ST CROSSTOWN
106 - 42nd ST CROSSTOWN
7 - BROADWAY-COL - LENOX AVES
1 - PARK & MADISON VIA-135 ST.
2 - PARK & MADISON VIA-116 ST.
10 - 8th AVE. - CENT. PK. WEST
30 - 149th ST CROSSTOWN

This had to have been made prior to the Dec. 22, 1963 closure of the ex-FACCo Jackson Heights depot (at 76th Street and Northern Boulevard) out of which 15-Jackson Heights and 16-Elmhurst were based before being transferred to 54th Street depot in Manhattan, but how does one explain 3-Fifth Avenue on this - was it split between Jackson Heights and 132nd Street (whose routes weren't even mentioned - nor was Amsterdam Depot's)? Those are on the top.

Next are the two 6's (Broadway-Ave. of Americas - this was obviously after the Nov. 10, 1963 one-way conversion of Sixth Avenue below Herald Square - and 72nd Street Crosstown - where'd've they been at that point?). I have to surmise 12th Street depot at that point in MaBSTOA's history was home to the 11, 12, 13, 14(A) and 14(D) routes, given how close in proximity they are shown on that rollsign (I presume it was 1968 or so when 11 was reassigned to 132nd Street?).

Then is what looks like the 100th Street depot's group of routes: 17, 18, 19, 20, TB, 101, 107. Followed by what would have been 54th Street's: 15, 16, 20, 21, 103 and 106; and finally, what appears to be the lineup at 146th Street: 1, 2, 7, 10 and Bx-30 (that last route appears, over the years, to have been ping-ponged between there and Amsterdam).

The routes at 132nd Street are obviously not included (2 - 5th & 7th Avenues; 3 - Fifth and Convent or St. Nicholas Aves.; 4 - 5th Ave.-110th St.-Riverside Drive or Fort Washington; 5 - 5th Ave.-110th St.-Riverside Drive; and 10 - Broadway), nor of Amsterdam's itinerary (definitely 104 - Broadway, don't know about the others, though I did notice 100 - Broadway-Kingsbridge on a rollsign of routes assigned to Kingsbridge depot at the time).

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