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Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter.

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jan 10 12:15:55 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Jan 3 23:43:18 2017.

Yes more than 85 percent are willfully speeding when it is possible to do so. That is because in cases when a law makes no sense, people will not abide by it. That's why cars rarely come to a complete stop at a stop sign if there is no car in front of them. That is why virtually everyone jaywalks when there is little or no traffic. That's why Prohibition was a failure and had to be repealed. So don't try to make it appear that drivers are more lawless than the general population.

When I said most of the accidents are caused by those going at 50 or 60, I meant to say most of the accidents that cause fatalities are caused by those going at 50 or 60 mph. Probably most of the rest are caused by turning vehicles and a small percentage by pedestrians jumping out from between parked cars. Cars going 30 mph in a 25 mph zone are probably causing a negligible amount of fatalities.

The 99.6 percent of the collisions you refer to are mostly minor fender benders where pedestrians are not even involved, so your conclusion to punish all drivers by making travel at unrealistically slow speeds to reduce impact speeds is fallacious. You are not considering any of other effects of too slow speed limits.

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