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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians |
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Posted by R30A on Fri Sep 9 22:28:49 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Sep 9 22:11:43 2016. "When I stated the community is against DOT's proposal, you stated that the people at the protest were not the community."Correct. They in no way represent the community as a whole. "The inference is that the community supports the proposal." No such inference can be made. "Now you said you never said that so you are talking out of both sides of your mouth." Being accurate is not "talking out of both sides of your mouth" "The protestors either represented the larger community or they did not." They did not. "You can't have it both ways." I don't "It is not a conspiracy theory that DOT misleads." Yes it is. "It is a known fact." Only to you and your conspiracy theorist friends. "When the proposal was first presented DOT was asked why the speed limit was lowered. The response was that it was lowered because of Vision Zero which is separate from SBS." Yes. "Now DOT is stating that Vision Zero and SBS are both part of the Complete Streets program and that SBS." Correct. "So if they are both part of the same program, it is inaccurate to say they have nothing to do with each other." No it is not inaccurate. Different elements of a program certainly can be unrelated. "SBS is either related to Vision Zero or it is not." OK! Most binary statements can be true. Such does not give them any substantive meaning. "Vehicles on the main roadway travel at higher speeds than along service roads." Potentially. Not reliably. "So if a car hits someone on the sidewalk he is more likely to hit that person at a lower rate of speed than if he were on the main roadway." Based on unsubstantiated prior assumption "Of course maniacs can still do 60 mph on a service road, but it is less likely." Actually, the chance of somebody speeding on a service road ending up on the sidewalk is likely much greater as they are not engineered for higher speeds. |
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