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Re: Breaking News: DesignLine filed Chapter 11 BANKRUPTCY; NJ Transit i$ largest creditor

Posted by R160A A Train on Sat Aug 17 09:23:29 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News: DesignLine filed Chapter 11 BANKRUPTCY; NJ Transit i$ largest creditor, posted by busdude2 on Fri Aug 16 18:15:08 2013.

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Ah now there's the rub. The Millennium mess was actually NJT's fault. It came to light about a year ago that the Millennium RTS buses were in fact fine but NJT didn't want to be the first big contract on a new bus builder, EVEN THOUGH Millennium was employed by ex-Nova employees and even some Ex-TMC employees who knew the RTS like the back of their hands.

Meanwhile all of the RTS built on the NJT contract have been in regular service since with next to little or no issues, in fact Texas A&M, Pueblo and Somerset County (Talk about having someone in your back yard slap you in the face with you own $#!t) had been knocking down MTS's doors for more units because they work so well. NJT had left such a bad taste in MTS's mouth that it never really recovered from that.

NJT much like the MTA has a history of being an extreme tough customer to deal, especially with NJT and all their ultra customizations of buses. In fact every bus since the 2001 Neoplan and MCI orders were HEAVILY customized. I'm amazed that DesignLine even decided to take on NJT, because there were several manufacturers who wouldn't even bid on a NJT RFP.

Now yeah DesignLine has had its share of hiccups, but the NJT order was poised to get them on track and I've heard that NJT has been less that pleasant to deal with on this order as well changing up and specs and what not. Typical NJT, I'm surprised NABI held on because there was loads of changes through out that contract. Hell NJT changed the whole damn bus including shrinking it to 38 and a half feet.

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