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Re: Ideas for express bus from Long Island

Posted by RailBus63 on Wed May 23 09:10:24 2012, in response to Ideas for express bus from Long Island, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed May 23 06:40:42 2012.

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What data are you using to determine how much demand exists for these routes?

How would trip times compare to a commuter in that town parking at the nearest LIRR station and riding the train to Penn Station? Some of your routes look rather lengthy - will commuters from wealthy towns be OK with the bus taking a detour off the highway for the stop at Queens College?

How many buses would be required and where would they be garaged? Given the length of your routes and the probable times of peak deamnd, I suspect many of your buses will be making one-way trips (reverse commuters going from the city to the island will likely be traveling at the same hours that islanders will be trying to get into the city). This could result in a significant amount of deadhead mileage required. You could situate the depot somewhere in Queens or eastern Nassau county to help facilitate the movement of buses and drivers out of the city after the a.m. rush and back in time for the p.m. rush but that would obviously mean some long pull-out and pull-in runs at the beginning and end of the day.

It's fun to think about a system like this but the logistical challenges are enormous, and that's without even getting into fares and subsidies. In most cities where express buses and commuter rail compete, either the bus route came first or it is well established. Experience in New Jersey and Boston have shown that the majority of commuters will prefer the train to the bus when both modes are convenient.

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