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Re: NJ Commuters skeptical about idea to bypass Port Authority's bus terminal

Posted by JAzumah on Sat May 12 20:27:51 2012, in response to Re: NJ Commuters skeptical about idea to bypass Port Authority's bus terminal, posted by NJT Oradell on Sat May 12 13:11:28 2012.

I don't think you understand how this works.

People do not want to travel through Manhattan. They are forced to because the other options aren't so great. The vehicles that you force out of the core are not typically using the peripheral roads to get there. There aren't that many cars trying to get to Manhattan during rush hours in relation to the number of jobs there. The purpose of congestion pricing was to monetize the people passing through because they are deemed to be wealthy people driving to Manhattan. This is congestion mythology.

The Cross Bronx Expressway is an irregular roadway primarily because it bypasses Manhattan. The Brooklyn Queens Expressway is irregular for the same reason. The Staten Island Expressway is somewhat more reliable, but it is practically impassible at certain points during rush hours and on the weekends. The Belt Parkway has similar traffic patterns to the SIE. Notice a pattern? Your idea would bring our region to a halt by making most of the non-Manhattan arteries impassible with an overload of bypass traffic.

The idea that any of this money would be used on transit is laughable at best. This was the problem with the original plan. It gave the MTA the East River bridges, but would have pulled all of its funding from MTA Bus as well all of its various contributions. The expected profit off those bridges was up to $600M. MTA Bus costs $422M this year. The typical capital program contribution is $105M. That is $527M already spoken for and the balance would have been used to buy off the suburbs (remember the big scramble to add Suffolk to MTA Bus).

I am not interested in implementing a toll program unless the infrastructure can support it. We don't build new transit, we don't want to rebuilt deteriorating assets and there are no plans to add road capacity to do this. I don't play the "screw the driver" game.

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