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Re: 1981 News Report: Grumman-Flxible 870 Cracked A-Frame Problems

Posted by New Flyer D40LF 4050 on Thu Jan 6 18:27:04 2011, in response to Re: 1981 News Report: Grumman-Flxible 870 Cracked A-Frame Problems, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Jan 6 00:08:54 2011.

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You post a number of chronological inaccuracies for someone in the know so to speak.

First of all, the RTS arrived "so soon" as you put it because they were 1981 models most likely ordered in 1980. They also weren't "replacements" for the Grummans. They were supposed to operate side by side, hence the reason for Grumman and RTS garage set-ups. Much like the GM/Flx New Look arrangements of the previous decade. Sooooo, GM didn't lose the "big one" as you stated, they were already filling an NYCTA order. The 870s being lemons changed what had been basically a two bus model system (GM and Flx New Looks/RTS and Grummans) to one bus only for 12 years when NYCTA ordered nothing but RTS buses.

The RTS did undergo design changes, the most important being removing the slope for a better A/C unit. This happened in 1980. The same year Grummmans were dropping engines and having cracked frames. So what exactly did Flxible pioneer?

One more thing, Flxible production ended in 1996, RTS production in 2002. A difference of six years.

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