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Re: Photos : OCTA 5130 2008 NFI C40LFR |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Sat Oct 18 13:48:27 2008, in response to Photos : OCTA 5130 2008 NFI C40LFR, posted by lbt 9415 on Sat Oct 18 02:01:15 2008. As far as seating configuration, the C40LFR suburbans have 34 seats verses 42 seats on the D40HFs. With the fewer seats on the new coaches, some passengers worried about being passed up due to no room ( These passengers will NOT stand for 30 miles on this route ). The 701 has 3 AM and 3 PM trips. They particularly wanted something with more room, like Over-the-road coaches ( i.e. MCIs ) with tray tables and wifi ammenities as well. All i could tell them is to voice their concern to the the customer service department.And this is where the industry has backfired big time. Here's what has happened in NJ (Public Service/Transport of New Jersey/New Jersey Transit) to their transit bus seating over the last 50 years: - 1957-1958 GMC TDH-5108 - 51 seats - 1960-1970 GMC TDH-5302/TDH-5304/T6H-5306 - 51 seats - 1976 Flx 53102-8 - 50 seats - 1981 Flx 870, 1983/1989 Flx Metro - 47 seats - 1994 Flx Metro, 1995/1999-2000 Nova RTS - 43 seats - 2009-2013 NABI 416 - 42 seats For all the so-called progress of design, NJ has lost 9 seats from the same 40-foot standard-floor bus. Over the period 1957-1976, the 40-foot suburbans (GM Old Looks and New Looks, Flx New Looks) all had 49 seats. The only way NJT was able to maintain that after ADB production began was with MCIs. The 1989 (46 seats, two-door) and 1994 (45 seats, single-door) Flx Metro "suburbans" could not duplicate the all-forward seating or the recliners, and have essentially settled into use as "upgraded transits". Add in the additional reduced seating of low-floors, and you can see why the OCTA passengers are concerned. Here's a 40-foot suburban-configured bus with just 34 seats - a 19% loss in seating from the buses they replaced. (If the 701 was 5 round trips a day instead of 3, OCTA would have lost a full bus' worth of capacity!) NJT refitted some of those 1976 Flx New Look suburbans with lifts and tie-down areas - they lost just 4 seats in the conversion (to 45). That means a 35-foot New Look suburban, with the same wheelchair-lift conversion, would have had 37 seats - 3 more than the 5-foot longer C40LFR. |
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