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      <title>W.B.&apos;s Bus Almanac for September 12th (W.B.)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by W.B. on 9/12/2026 5:03:00 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;u&gt;September 12, 1966 - The Book of First Runs&lt;/u&gt;

The Bronx, New York
Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority
(Surface Transit Division)

A new offshoot of the Bx-6 - Throggs Neck line, Bx-6C - Shuttle (though still indicating 6 on roll signs), begins service on this date.  It, along with the other Bx-6 lines, will run until February 15, 1970.

(&lt;em&gt;Source:&lt;/em&gt;  &quot;MaBSTOA:  The First Ten Years&quot; by Bernard Linder.  &lt;em&gt;Motor Coach Age&lt;/em&gt;, May 1972.)


&lt;u&gt;September 12, 1971 - The Book of Route Service Changes&lt;/u&gt;

The Bronx, New York
Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority
(Surface Transit Division)

Route Bx-8 - Williamsbridge Road is rerouted to 225th Street and White Plains Road, while the Bx-15C - Allerton Avenue line (the once and future Bx-17) is extended from Asch Loop to Einstein Loop (Co-op City) and Bx-9 - Eastchester Road is rerouted to 233rd Street and White Plains Road.

(&lt;em&gt;Source:&lt;/em&gt;  &quot;MaBSTOA:  The First Ten Years&quot; by Bernard Linder.  &lt;em&gt;Motor Coach Age&lt;/em&gt;, May 1972.)
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      <pubDate>Sat, 12  Sep 2026 10:03:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: What&apos;s this bus? (Asgard)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by Asgard on 9/12/2026 12:35:46 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;They&apos;re Surface Transportation System Macks.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12  Sep 2026 05:35:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>What&apos;s this bus? (Snilcher)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by Snilcher on 9/11/2026 11:10:34 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the film &quot;Where&apos;s My Roy Cohn?&quot; there is a shot of a red bus on the streets of Manhattan in 1955 with the logo &quot;Ride the Surface Way&quot; along the top.  You can see it here:

&lt;A href=&quot;https://youtu.be/ucOtZEu-SKw?t=1785&quot;&gt;https://youtu.be/ucOtZEu-SKw?t=1785&lt;/A&gt;

No front shot so no destination sign to see.  Anybody can identify what company that bus belongs to?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12  Sep 2026 04:10:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>W.B.&apos;s Bus Almanac for September 11th (W.B.)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by W.B. on 9/11/2026 1:18:55 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;u&gt;September 11, 1972 - The Book of Route Renumberings and First Runs&lt;/u&gt;

Manhattan and Staten Island, New York
New York City Transit Authority - Staten Island Bus Division
Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority (NYCO Division)

On this day, several new express buses or branches are launched:
- A rush-hours-only Oakwood-Manhattan express branch of the R9X (the main Staten Island-Manhattan express had been in operation since 1968), running from Tysens Lane to Broadway and Park Place or 57th Street and Third Avenue
- The aforementioned original R9X line is redesignated as R13X
- A new rush-hour express route, R11X Great Kills-Manhattan Express, is launched; it runs from Arthur Kill Road and Richmond Avenue to Pearl and Frankfort Streets or 57th Street and Third Avenue

As well, after countless legal delays, MaBSTOA&apos;s new Hudson Depot on Pier 57 opens for business.  It replaces the extremely cramped former New York City Omnibus&apos; 12th Street depot which hereafter closes (and where most buses stored there had to be parked on the street when not on the road), and also picks up some routes from other depots, namely the M13 8th Street Crosstown, M15 23rd Street Crosstown, M16 34th Street Crosstown and M21 Houston Street-Avenue C Crosstown from 54th Street, and M11 Ninth and Amsterdam Avenues from 132nd Street.  Its initial roster of buses, besides those previously at 12th Street, consisted of transfers from the 54th Street, 100th Street and Amsterdam depots.  It has the capacity to house up to 200 buses, though mostly 165 were held during its service life.

(&lt;em&gt;Source&lt;/em&gt; [Staten Island express bus changes]:  &quot;Staten Island&quot; by Bernard Linder, &lt;em&gt;Motor Coach Age&lt;/em&gt;, March 1973.)
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      <pubDate>Fri, 11  Sep 2026 18:18:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: W.B.&apos;s Bus Almanac for September 8th [DELAYED] (W.B.)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by W.B. on 9/10/2026 6:41:52 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I found the B82&apos;s extension was on Sept. 7, 2003, but the other two check out.  Those are being added on for the next time.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10  Sep 2026 23:41:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Tuscarora Almanac for September 10 (Correct Posting) (irtredbirdr33)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by irtredbirdr33 on 9/10/2026 2:53:37 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;i&gt;This is the correct post for September 10 &lt;/i&gt;




&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Tuscarora Almanac for September 10&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/u&gt;



&lt;b&gt;1989  from The Book of Last Runs&lt;/b&gt;

MABSTOA discontinues service  on the M-103 59th Street Crosstown Line. This route began as a horse-car line on July 18, 1863 operated by the Central Park, North &amp; East River Railroad Company. Trolley cars began to replace the horse-cars in 1898. Buses replaced the trolleys on November 10, 1946. 

The route at that time ran between York Avenue  East 61st Street and West End Avenue West 59th Street. The western terminus was extended north to West 73rd Street and Broadway on September 8, 1963.
Service ran seven days a week from 6 AM to 12 midnight. The last Manhattan Bus Map to show this service was dated 1988.



&lt;b&gt;1995  from The Book of First Runs&lt;/b&gt;

MABSTOA begins operation of  the M-103 Third Avenue-Lexington Avenue line begins service between East 125th Street and Park Row. This will supplement the M-101 and M-102 buses.

The M-103 designation had previously been used by the 59th Street Crosstown from 1946 to 1989. The first map to list the new service was dated February 1996.

Source: New York Division Bulletin / July 2000 / article by Mr. Bernard Linder &amp; Manhattan Bus Map February 1996

Larry, RedbirdR33

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      <pubDate>Thu, 10  Sep 2026 19:53:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Tuscarora Almanac for September 10 (irtredbirdr33)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by irtredbirdr33 on 9/10/2026 2:42:16 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Tuscarora Almanac for September 11&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/u&gt;



&lt;b&gt;1977  from The Book of First Runs&lt;/b&gt;

A new bus route known as the Q-49 Jamaica Avenue Limited begins service today. It will operate along Jamaica Avenue between 168 Street and Queens Boulevard stopping only at 160 Street and Sutphin Boulevard replacing the Jamaica Avenue subway line which was cut back to Queens Boulevard. Free Transfers are issued at that location to the subway trains.

Larry, RedbirdR33
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10  Sep 2026 19:42:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: W.B.&apos;s Bus Almanac for September 8th [DELAYED] (New Flyer #857)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by New Flyer #857 on 9/10/2026 7:14:56 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&apos;m not sure if you keep it to a certain segment of history but if it helps I&apos;m pretty sure on September 8, 2002 the B82 was extended from Canal Ave to Coney Island and two route consolidations occurred: B40-B78 became B47 and B13-B18 became the current B13.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10  Sep 2026 12:14:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>W.B.&apos;s Bus Almanac for September 10th (W.B.)</title>
      <link>http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=351146</link>
      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by W.B. on 9/10/2026 2:59:17 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;u&gt;September 10, 1956 - The Book of First Runs&lt;/u&gt;

Manhattan, New York
Surface Transportation Corporation of New York
Fifth Avenue Coach Lines, Inc.

On this date, new fleets of buses take to the streets for two of the private bus companies.

For Surface Transportation (whose merger with Third Avenue Transit Corporation into Surface Transit, Inc. will occur officially within three months), 29 new buses built by Mack Trucks enter service in Manhattan and the Bronx. The buses, model C-49-DT, are numbered 2962-2989 plus a former demonstration bus numbered 800.  In 1963 MaBSTOA will renumber 800 as 4910 and 2962-2989 as 4962-4989. Together with one previous and one subsequent order to Mack (for 1954 buses 2990-2999 [later 4990-4999] and 1958 buses 3000-3009 [later 4900-4909]), these will remain a fixture on Manhattan and Bronx streets through 1967.

For Fifth Avenue Coach Lines, a two-week series of tests starts on another experimental air-conditioned bus, a 40-foot long, 96-inch wide GMC model TDH-5106 numbered 3100 (serial #0919).  Unlike fellow experimental air-conditioned bus 3200, this will remain on the city streets for a much longer period of time.  3100 was also the first bus built with a touch-type rear exit door, wrap-around rear seating and fluorescent lighting.  The bus was an immediate hit with the public, and this initial two-week test (which saw it running on several routes) was followed by later ones; but as this stand-alone bus entered regular service, constant problems with the air-conditioning system led to the rear-mounted cooler and its cover being removed by MaBSTOA after its 1962 takeover.  It remained in regular service, increasingly in the Bronx, through the early 1970&apos;s, then spent a few years in service to the Transit Police. 3100 would later be restored (with a mockup of the rear-mounted air-conditioning unit atop the back of the bus) and is today part of the Transit Museum collection.

(&lt;em&gt;Sources:&lt;/em&gt;  &quot;New Buses to Run Here,&quot; &lt;em&gt;The New York Times&lt;/em&gt;, September 11, 1956; &quot;Public Hails New Bus,&quot; &lt;em&gt;The New York Times&lt;/em&gt;, September 28, 1956.)


&lt;u&gt;September 10, 1967 - The Book of Route Extensions&lt;/u&gt;

The Bronx, New York
Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority
(Surface Transit Division)

Route Bx-5 - Bruckner Boulevard is extended to the area around Jacobi Hospital at Pelham Parkway and Seymour Avenue.

(&lt;em&gt;Source:&lt;/em&gt;  &quot;MaBSTOA:  The First Ten Years&quot; by Bernard Linder.  &lt;em&gt;Motor Coach Age&lt;/em&gt;, May 1972.)


&lt;u&gt;September 10, 1973 - The Book of Route Extensions&lt;/u&gt;

Queens, New York
New York City Transit Authority
Queens Bus Division

As of this date, Route Q77 - Francis Lewis and Springfield Boulevards is extended to 145th Road.

(&lt;em&gt;Source:&lt;/em&gt;  &quot;Queens: North Shore Bus Co. and NYCTA Queens Bus Division&quot; by Bernard Linder, &lt;em&gt;Motor Coach Age&lt;/em&gt;, April-May 1977.)


&lt;u&gt;September 10, 1989 - The Book of Last Runs and Route Service Changes&lt;/u&gt;

Manhattan, New York
New York City Transit Authority
Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority

In one of the most sweeping changes of bus service in Manhattan, several routes, most in the area around 57th and 59th Streets, are altered thus:

- M5 - Fifth Avenue/Riverside Drive:  Transition points relocated from 57th Street to 59th Street
- M28 - 57th Street Crosstown:  Merged with M103 - 59th Street Crosstown (which, in this form, is discontinued) into M57; with this change, its western terminus is shifted from 55th Street and 12th Avenue to 73rd Street and Broadway, traveling along 11th and West End Avenues between 57th and 72nd Streets.
- Another crosstown route along 57th Street, designated M58, is also launched; it terminates at Columbus Circle to the west, and 72nd Street and York Avenue to the east. (This route will be merged with, and absorbed into, the M31 - York Avenue line in January 1994.)
- M30 - 72nd Street Crosstown:  Western terminus cut back from 72nd Street and Central Park West to Columbus Circle; at this point operating in rush hours only
- Meanwhile, another 72nd Street crosstown route, designated M72, begins service; it travels directly through Central Park via the 65th Street Transverse, and terminates west at Freedom Place.
- M18 - 86th Street Crosstown:  Renumbered as M86.

(&lt;em&gt;Source:&lt;/em&gt;  &quot;Introducing the M57, M58 and M72 Routes: Announcing Improved Manhattan Crosstown Bus Service - Starting Sunday, September 10, 1989.&quot;  New York City Transit Authority, 1989.)
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10  Sep 2026 07:59:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: W.B.&apos;s Bus Almanac for September 8th [DELAYED] (Snilcher)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by Snilcher on 9/9/2026 11:26:23 AM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;
Service begins on a new experimental route, Q-80 - Linden Boulevard, running from Merrick Boulevard and Sayres Avenue to Linden and Lefferts Boulevards.&lt;/i&gt;

And discontinued less than a year later.  IMHO that route was set up to fail because it did not serve any subway connections.  It would have been easy enough to extend it to the Lefferts Blvd. station or even the Rockaway Blvd. station, but they did not do so.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 9  Sep 2026 16:26:23 GMT</pubDate>
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